Why is common sense so rare in white nationalism?
You know I was listening to Kelsoe on the radio anf d he said something that got me thinking. White Nationalists need to get less radical whites onboard protecting their interests, This to me seems like common sense. I've been to more than a few forums and have found that in many if you don't toe a certain line considering either seperation or extermination you are looked at as if you were a troll. I feel that if we can simply get true equality we would make a giant leap forward for the white race If every white nationalist got his stored rifle and food supply and ran out his front door,started shooting every minority in sight while screaming at the top of his lungs we demand seperation or extermination the goverment would have the whole movement wiped out by the end of the summer with the last holdouts being cornered in a barn in Idaho.
Yet when I point out that this would be the case these purists say we will get more people to join and then achieve our goals. Good luck on getting members during a shooting war.
Now getting support for equal rights seems to me such a reasonable demand that it is achievable since whites unlike other groups are the type that bend over backwards just to be fair. Once people see how much better things get when they no longer have to hire less competent people and can live in homogenous neighborhoods since they can then sell their property as they see fit we can then incrementally move towards a white society with fairness as our watchword.
Being free to form all white clubs and groups to support fairness would move more and more whites into a pro-white frame of mind and groupism naturally leads to political strengthening.
Right now I doubt that if all white nationalist groups voted as a bloc we could elect a congressman but all whites voting as a bloc could elect the President and everyone else in office. What do you think?
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I demand at the very least, segregation, and the de-Jewnification of our media and education system that promotes die-versity, White guilt, race mixing and faggotization. More would be preferred, but we gotta start somewhere.
I noticed an alarming trend in the younger generation, more and more than ever before are claiming to be gay, or bisexual. I find this very disturbing and sickening.
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Yes, and it's not just whites. I saw a documentary on how feminized Japanese males have become, and their women are moaning, not because they're getting any, but because they can't find husbands because they're all such a bunch of preening dandies now.Originally Posted by Mr Frosty
Feminization is really taking root now... you see it in popular culture, for instance, in pop music where it seems to be the Jew-run music industry won't let you in unless you're female and prepared to turn semi pornstar for the role.
Advertising is heavily gearing towards women, and meanwhile, men are cast in the role of dumb beasts who're happy just to sink beer, watch sports and blow things up. Which doesn't even match the reality a lot of the time. The other half, and a HUGE number of young fellas, and girls too, are turning mindlessly violent. This is because the Liberal system has indulged them to the point that we have one study called 'an emerging generation of narcissists'.
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The derogatory term used by young Japanese women for their "Girly Men" translates as "Herbivore"
I find young, courting Asian couples hilarious, they guys are all pooned up like a pox doctor's clerk, with their spiky bouffants, white T-shirts and slip on shoes and the girls do that swooning, dreamy eyed, "I wuv you" thing that they all seem to do.
However given what Asian girls turn into, ie Asian women I don't think their menfolk need a crystal ball to forsee a life of relentless toil and nagging.
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To the title, I'll agree that common sense is rare in White nationalism. It's rare because we (and our ideas/ideals) have become marginalized and we are looking in from the outside and we're desperate to get back in (to mainstream society). I've noticed in myself and in other WNs whom I know that people who hold our views tend to be very direct, too direct and logical to appeal to the masses. We see our civilization collapsing and we proverbially scream at the top of our lungs for change. Meanwhile, the enemies of our people use subtlety to tighten their grip on the minds of our more susceptible people (white lemmings).
What WNN is attempting to do is make our ideas more palatable to those on the edge between lemingdom and free thinking. WNN is the bridge between revolutionaries and what's left of the patriot sentiments in our White lemming population.
One common sense approach WNN has taken is to promote highs standards and trust its members to largely police themselves. Professionalism is the key to pulling ourselves away from the fringe. All successful revolutions have a core of idea-driven people whose greatest challenge is to build enough people and resources to reach the masses with their message.
The problem with many other WN sites is that they tend to attract a lot of negativity. Let's face it, a lot of WNs are WN because they resent more than they love. Many are just looking for someone to blame for their own sorry state of affairs. While we sympathize with these people and the growth of a WN core will benefit them, the positive people among us, the civilization builders, must separate ourselves from them, lest we become mired in negativity and resort to assigning blame instead of building and moving forward.
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From Simpson's book, Which Way, Western Man, page 256 and then 257:The derogatory term used by young Japanese women for their "Girly Men" translates as "Herbivore"
I find young, courting Asian couples hilarious, they guys are all pooned up like a pox doctor's clerk, with their spiky bouffants, white T-shirts and slip on shoes and the girls do that swooning, dreamy eyed, "I wuv you" thing that they all seem to do.
However given what Asian girls turn into, ie Asian women I don't think their menfolk need a crystal ball to forsee a life of relentless toil and nagging.
"Male and female are the opposite poles of creation. Man and Woman are an expression of
this on the human plane. Life for each sex is fullest and richest, and the life of society
most healthy, when these polar differences are maintained."
"But when I maintain, as I do, that men and women are fundamentally different creatures,
there is no need, as I think my reader will agree by the time that I have finished, for
women to bristle up and prepare to defend themselves against being put in a place below
Man. For the point I am going to make is not against Woman as such, but if against
women at all, only against those women who do not want to be women, those perverted
women who have turned against their own nature and their own sex. In fact, my case is
really not against Woman at all, but at bottom against the degeneracy in Man in which
the perversion in women had its origin. For when Man has played his part, Woman has
never failed to fill the part that belongs to her."
While civilizations and the advancement of technology have a natural feminizing effect on men since it leaves them with less physical hardship and a softer lifestyle, we must also realize that our enemies promote the feminization of the White male purposely in order to undermine the health of our society. In how many sitcoms (Everybody Loves Raymond, Tool Time, King of Queens come to mind) have you seen the male portrayed, and hence promoted (monkey see, monkey do) as a babbling idiot who can't maneuver successfully through society, while his wife is ultra-assertive, intelligent, and in charge?
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I'll agree with you that some people are born a certain way that leads them to "convert themselves" to White Nationalism. In this age of lies and deceit, it takes a special person to go against the grain and constantly challenge the onslaught of the schools, media, and government and find the inherent truth at the root of our movement. After the movie The Matrix, I like to call these people "red pill takers." I have to slightly disagree with you when I say that some people are born red pill takers, but they don't have their Keanu Reeves moment during which they are presented a red pill or a blue pill until later in their life.
I have met a few people who, after a few conversations, I could tell were red pill takers. They tend to be very direct people, and people who fundamentally don't like other people, or for that matter, themselves. (This stems from a recognition of man's true potential to consciously evolve higher - these people have a lofty vision for the future of man, and are a harsh critic of the faults of man. Which reminds me of a passage from Thus Spoke Zarathustra: "I TEACH YOU THE SUPERMAN. Man is something that is to be surpassed. What
have ye done to surpass man?
All beings hitherto have created something beyond themselves: and ye
want to be the ebb of that great tide, and would rather go back to the
beast than surpass man?
What is the ape to man? A laughing-stock, a thing of shame. And just the
same shall man be to the Superman: a laughing-stock, a thing of shame.
Ye have made your way from the worm to man, and much within you is still
worm. Once were ye apes, and even yet man is more of an ape than any of
the apes.
Even the wisest among you is only a disharmony... http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/1/9/9/1998/1998.txt"
To return to the red pill takers, some are just never presented with enough truth to run with it on their own and keep searching. A few people to whom I have presented a red pill had always had a sense that they were missing something, a linchpin to the universe. The truly special (or perhaps just lucky) don't have to be presented with a red pill, but rather seek it out for themselves.
It IS possible to convert some people to our cause, in fact many people, without the use of propaganda or by first making our cause fashionable. Of course, the percentage of our people with the potential to take the red pill is relatively small, probably less than 10 percent. To win the rest of our people, we will have to wrest control of the Matrix from our enemies.
EDIT: At this stage in our movement, it's our job, our fundamental duty, to seek out White red pill takers and reveal the Matrix to them for what it is: a jewish/egalitarian-dominated system that dispossesses Whites from the inheritance of their forebears. Once we have enough independent thinkers and men of action who see the Matrix for what it is, THEN we can focus our efforts on wresting control of the Matrix from our enemies and propelling our people upward.
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I don't understand the Red pill / Blue pill analogy.
If it's something to do with the Matrix movies I have to report that I almost never watch movies or TV, the last film I saw was Yogi Bear, with my kids.
Edit: Ah right, I get it now. Yeah spot on..but, I still maintain that "Evangelism" doesn't work, occult or arcane knowledge on the other hand is a powerful lure and a mighty weapon in our arsenal.
Exploring the realities of the Occult war, by Dr Harrell Rhome
efore, the basic concept of the Occult War encompasses the metaphysical and esoteric factors involved in the process of unfolding history, with direct implications for the current state of world affairs.Let’s begin by confronting basic issues. The very term, occult, is perceived as negative by some readers. They have been taught this by the media and by most of the schools and churches. By necessity then, we begin with a debunking of this concept. The word, occult, simply means secret or concealed, and beyond this, with a secondary meaning having to do with the magical and supernatural. As Godfrey Higgins shows, all spiritual forces and their manifestations in worldly affairs involve both the Forces of Light and the Dark Powers. Hence, to go farther, we must enlarge our realm of understanding, and open our consciousness to new vistas. Writers and thinkers like Julius Evola, Rene Guenon and others including myself, are essentially writers who seek understanding beyond the limits. By definition, we are occultists.
YouTube - Matrix - The pill
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Matrix, guy. One pill opens your eyes, the other allows you to see the false truth.I don't understand the Red pill / Blue pill analogy.
If it's something to do with the Matrix movies I have to report that I almost never watch movies or TV, the last film I saw was Yogi Bear, with my kids.
I've been watching some flicks with real subversive overtones, and I realise vis a vis the 'revolution' that it would require a climate. See, right now there are 'Whites' and 'White Nationalists' and others (WS etc). Until White Nationalists can make those other Whites see the truth about race, nothing will happen. I note that Socialists were not above using Black Ops to achieve their ends. For instance (and this might've been fictional but the blurb on the DVD box claims it was taken from actual events at the end of Thatcher's Britain) a socialist group in a particular Burrough, in a bid to set the black population against the right wing, actually used thugs to beat up blacks and put the blame and anger on the right wing. Again, it might've been the imagination of a script writer, but I think you can see where I'm going. In the right climate, a little bit of tweaking to stoke the outrage is something that any propogandist worth his salt would have to figure.
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It worked well enough at Cronulla, the implicit distrust of Muslims was perverted into explicit Islamophobia which gave the Right Wingers and Zio Cons undeserved legitimacy in the issues of Nationalism and Race.
Now we have a two front war.
Anti Whites on the Right.
Anti Whites on the Left.
To steal a bit of someone elses propaganda;
"They've got us surrounded...the poor bastards!"
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No, Jay, Cronulla was a natural occurrence if you take out the Alan Jones's and others who bought into it. See, I grew up in the South and went to school out that way in the early 1980s. This enmity was brewing over time. The way those Lebanese behaved with those lifeguards "we own this beach" is EXACTLY how they comported themselves in many of the suburbs dotting the South. That part of Southern Sydney, is VERY white. Yet, it also suffered prior to that day to influxes of 'Westies' (those from the Western suburbs) and gangs of Lebanese. I happened to be with a young fella at work when the initial SMSs were being spread. They weren't spread as false ops from unseen quarters, they were genuinely coming from young Aussies in the area SICK to the teeth of these Lebs. Now, you say "Muslim", well, maybe that part got drawn in because they also happened to be Muslim, but it was primarily because they were Lebanese and full of their Middle Eastern ancestry and "macho" culture. They went into a heavily white area, tried to stake their claim, and got chased out. Thing is, it took a LOT before it got to that point -- tales of harrassment were huge before that. They really did throw their weight around. It WAS exploited by interested parties. Skinheads can be seen goading on the crowd in certain videos, etc. But all their shenanigans aside, it was a healthy thing. The unhealthy part was the immediate cry of 'racism' against the defending Aussies. I thought it a heroic demonstration, if not an ultimatey failed one.
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We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.
Just as an aside, and not wanting to sideline the thread too far but it's somewhat relevant to this so called "Wingnut" question.
Do you find it interesting that there have never been any accusations of Police or Security Services acting as provocateurs on that day?
Even though those tactics were in full use at just about every demo around that time, it's odd.
We had that protest in Perth where the cops planted a crate of Molotovs near the route of the march.
The Melbourne G20 melee where police vehicles were left to be vandalised by "anarchists" (just like in Toronto).
S11, APEC, MUA...they were all infiltrated...but not Cronulla?
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To answer it this way: Cronulla was for the people, by the people. It drew in a lot of groups, but it was organised by locals. It might've been distorted into an 'anti-Muslim' thing, but it was a reaction against Lebanese gangs impinging on turf. Sure, outside groups exploited the situation, but it would've happened given the sense of feeling among locals. As to the cops, they seemed to arrest a lot of Aussies that day, and allow the 'revenge attacks' to go pretty much unchecked. One good semi-trailer could've halted that 'convoy'.
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Very true. Hitler used the democratic process to seize power, but the revolution had already occurred in the hearts and minds of the German people. He had built up enough of a core following to build the means to reach his people.
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And he very much saw it as a revolution too, "Our National Socialist Revolution".
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And yet the truly 'socialist' SA didn't see it that way. They wanted a 'revolution revolution'.
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The really good news though is that the administration has been overplaying their hand for a long time now. Even the most amiable whites are seeing that the situations they face are going against them through no fault of their own but due to an unlevel playing field.
IMO we white folks are great believers in fair play. Face it civil rights would never have happened if it weren't for our people being willing to play fair. The powers that be have taken the idea of fair play and twisted it into an egalitarian nightmare with no stopping point for common sense or morality and that may be his undoing. Even the most passive white sees that the boob tube is promoting disgusting immorality and surely doesn't like it but he feels helpless to stop it. He's the guy I want to recruit.
We do need some victories though. We need to write our politicians and let them know we wont sit idly by come election day. Politicians are whores and their main goal is getting re-elected. If we can field local canidates to city offices and win the shockwaves would be nationwide. If by hook or crook we can get one of us elected the news media will spasmodically help us and not even know it by speading the word with countless diatribes. A few people are going to say You know for all the screaming that guy doesn't seem that bad to me."
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Just a thought does anyone know an old white guy who has been mayor of a small town long enough to publically take a pro-white stand for his last election before he retires? He would be perfect for my scheme.
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I have also noticed people admitting to being bi-curious even though they don't know any better. When I hear a 13 year old admit to being bi-curious, it just makes me sick to my stomach. Its almost like they admit it because its suddenly cool to be that way now. And you notice its almost always limited to White kids, the Blacks aren't buying into the whole being queer is cool now. This is Jewish attack on our society and our race, for every White male that turns faggot that means less birth rates, and more White women who go and sleep with Negroes, because they are more manly than these bi-curious White teenagers.
They have been pushing the gay is cool movement HARD in the last 10 years. Even when I was in school, if you admitted to being gay, you would have gotten bullied hard, so basically the ones that were knew enough to keep their mouths shut and try not to stand out. Which is the way it should be.
And as far as the Japanese, they have fallen victim to their own perverse culture and media due to that anime garbage.
I advise strongly against WNs letting their kids watch this anime stuff, it promotes feminized males, homosexuality, pedophilia, sexual perversion, etc. Even if it appears harmless on the surface, it is not. There is a new term I learned the other day that describes Whites who fall victim to this culture, they are called weeaboos. They are basically White kids who try and act Japanese, think Japanese culture is superior, usually very femine looking males, most of the time are homosexual, and are fanatical about anime. One thing leads to another, so I warn and advise that this perverse culture is kept from your kids.
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Weeaboos, eh? There's a new one. I'll file that for future use. As for school -- where I went to school, admittedly decades ago, if you 'came out' you'd have been found lying in tall grass in the nearby paddock with every bone in your body broken. My, how times have changed.
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