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    In 1995 a book by Barry Brailsford, Song of Waitaha: The Histories of a Nation, claimed that the ancestors of the "Nation of Waitaha" were the first inhabitants of New Zealand, a pale-skinned people who had sailed there from Easter Island more than 2000 years before Polynesians arrived. It was claimed the "secret" Waitaha story had been suppressed for 200 years and the evidence of their occupation and existence, such as stone structures, had been mistaken for natural formations or Maori artifacts.
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    Some legends depicted Quetzalcoatl as the creator of’ the world. Others described him as the father of civilization, a bearded white god who had come to Mexico from across the sea with the secrets of medicine, science, and agriculture. According to Aztec myth, Quetzalcoatl had ruled in Mexico for many years, then set off on a raft, vowing to return someday to regain his throne.
    It’s possible that Quetzalcoatl wasn’t simply a legendary figure. In 1970, a French explorer in Mexico claimed to have discovered stones bearing letters of an alphabet once used by the Vikings of Scandinavia. Perhaps the “bearded white god” who came from across the sea was actually a Viking chief who reached Mexico many centuries ago!
    Who Was the Bearded White God of Mexico? | Big Site of Amazing Facts ©

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    A red-haired mummy recovered
    from the Nevado Ampato, Peru, in
    the mountains near the famous
    Machu Picchu mountaintop fortress.
    Dated at circa 1400 AD, this may
    even have been one of the
    red-haired Incas that the Spaniards
    reported seeing
    Red Headed Mummies of Peru


    Vikings in south america?


    (A)Runes on the 'coiffure' of a statue from San Augustin, Columbia. (B) Runes found on a Nazca urn, Peru, followed by their 'normalization'.
    Vikings In South America?

    Vikings in Mexico During the 10th Century
    Did you know that Mexico was visited by Northern Europeans over 1000 years ago, and that there exists documentation and vestiges of these voyages, both in the old world and in the Americas?There are current accounts of Viking longboat hulls being found in Northern Baja California.
    A terracotta figurine in the Museo de las Culturas del Occidente in Colima has a viking helmet with two horns, similar to those worn by the great leaders in the Medieval times. It is a coincidence that two cultures should have the same deity in the 10th century: the Mayas and Toltecs worshipped Quetzalcoatl/Votan while the Vikings venerated Wotan. "Quetzalcoatl" means "feathered serpent", and it is interesting that the visitors referred to their ships as "flying serpents". Medieval Scandinavia was referred to as "Thule" by the Vikings, and Greenland was "Ultima Thule". In Mexico, the Toltec capital was called "Tula", wherein the god Votan was worshipped. According to one version of the Quetzalcoatl legend, he was red-haired, cross-eyed, and remained cloistered in Tula. Based on the Viking sagas compiled in the 14th century, Ari Marson, who was red-headed and cross-eyed, was lost at sea on his way to Greenland around 980 A.D. and was captured and worshipped as a god in a land six days' sail from Vinland--the Viking colony near the modern city of Boston, U.S.A.
    Quetzalcoatl (Votan) did not agree with human sacrifice, flagellated himself, carried a staff and sang during processions. Was he a Christian, like Ari Marson? The Magilbecchi Codex represents Quetzalcoatl (Votan) as a god of wind and storms, as god of the east and the sea, wearing a cap with two bones. The leader of the visiting Vikings was also from the east, from the sea, and wore a helmet with two horns.
    Researcher Gustavo Nel¡n, with a Masters in Chemical Engineering, has been a teacher at the U.A.E.M. for 25 years and an indefatigable writer and seeker of the world's mysteries. In this piece he presents some of the information which should not be overlooked with regard to the contacts which took place in Mexico during the 10th century. The author's findings have been confirmed by other researchers.
    Christopher Columbus did not discover America: The conquest of Mexico was accomplished thanks to a legend, since Moctezuma II mistook the arrival of the Spaniards with the return of the God Votan, giving the order not to slay the one who, by right, was master of the Aztec Empire
    The Saga of Wotan: Vikings in Mexico During the 10th Century



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    The Serpent of Quetzal or Serpent of Precious Feathers"

    It is very surprising how Quetzalcoatl (also known as Kukulcan, Gucumatz and Votan) is in practically in all of the cultures of the precolumbian Mexico. And all describe it the same, with only small variations.

    This god, that tormented Moctezuma with remorses, is considered the Christ of the precolumbian civilization, since it proclaimed the existence of only one god and the refusal of sacrifices (typical in the Aztec and Mayan cultures).

    Strangely, this indian deity does not seem to have been natural from America. All of its descriptions coincide in that it was of "white skin, with hair on the face and beautiful emerald eyes".

    In other words, Quetzalcoatl was white, posibly european. There is a hipothesis that Quetzalcoatl was a viking, sole survivor of a sea exploration; it has been especulated as if Columbus was really the first one to reach America. Some say that it was the vikings- or descendants of these-, who reached America first. They base themselves on the famous Temple of the Cross, in Palenque, Chiapas. The Aztecs considered Quetzalcoatl as the God of Intelligence, the wind. According to the Nahua leyend, Quetzalcoatl taught man the art of corn cultivating and other things that allowed the Nahua culture to stand out
    http://mexico.udg.mx/historia/precol...tzalcoatl.html

    http://www.whitenewsnow.com/new-zeal...html#post55090

    There are New Zealanders who will tell you emphatically that their ancestors were not Polynesian, but voyaged from South America long ago. These voyagers were skilled in the understanding of ocean currents and in navigation. Even today, sailors and Pacific peoples speak of “jet currents” which can take a vessel at a great rate of knots. Thor Heyerdahl and his colleagues proved that the ocean between South America and the South Pacific islands was a highway, with his epic journey of the raft Kon-Tiki from Peru to the Tuamotu Islands in 1947. The islands lie in French Polynesia, with the Marquesas Islands to the north, originating point of the people called the Mori-Ori. Heyerdahl’s discoveries excited the world in the following decades, but his achievements have been largely forgotten in New Zealand or are unknown to newer generations. He was one of several seekers of the past to point out the huge amount of artifact, flora and cultural evidence that shows a direct link between ancient New Zealand and our nearest major land mass toward the rising sun – South America.
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    Ruins may show Incas beat Maoris to New Zealand?
    Antonia Bowen-Jones

    An article in The Daily Telegraph dated June 11 1998, of a story filed by Paul Chapman in Wellington tells of an ancient earthwork that has been discovered in a remote forest in New Zealand. It challenges the long-held belief that the Maoris, who were previously credited with arriving in canoes from Polynesia, were the first people to discover and inhabit those islands.

    "An amateur researcher, Noel Hilliam, said yesterday he had discovered the site at Kaipara, in the far north of the country, and was certain it was not of Maori origin. The earthwork could have been built by a South American civilisation that arrived 1,000 years before the Maoris arrived, he said."

    Mr Hilliam, aged 60, who lives near the site, at Dargaville, and has spent the last 40 years studying hundreds of Maori sites, told Chapman he is convinced that this site is completely different.

    "He said the site was only a few hundred yards from where the remains of a mysterious ancient statue were found in 1991. The 10ft statue of a woman is carved in native Kauri timber but bears none of the distinctive signs of Maori artwork."

    Mr Hilliam is the curator of Dargaville museum, to where the statue was taken, though he says he could not interest any professional researchers to investigate it further. This is a great pity, as amateur researchers play a valuable part in other disciplines such as astronomy. But as archæologists are notorious for hanging on to their ''paradigms'' until they are totally impossible to defend, we shouldn''t be surprised at this ignoring of yet another oopart (out of place artifacts). Maybe someone''s Phd on the Maoris was felt to be under threat? Who knows?

    He told the Daily Telegraph that he had now arranged for an anthropologist to examine the earthwork, which consists of a series of ''overgrown circular banks'', and covers around 1 square mile. He also said that local Maori oral tradition told of a race that lived in the area for more than 1,000 years before the Maori arrival, and that these earlier settlers survive today as the Waitaha people. "A recent blood test on a Waitaha woman had revealed a factor otherwise only seen in Peru, Mr Hilliam said. Most of the 1,400 Waitahas live in the South Island, to which their own legend says they fled from the more war-like Maoris." The writer also interviewed an Waitaha descendent, Patrick Runka, who told him that his people were really excited about the discovery, but: "We''re not waiting for proof because we''ve always knownit was there."

    This is yet another example of scientists not listening to oral traditions, or to amateur archæologists, and once again it is left up to the media to highlight discoveries that challenge the views of prehistory we continue to be taught in schools and colleges.

    The newspaper also interviewed another researcher, Sir Gary Cook, who has spent the past three years photographing and recording stone structures that he says are also pre-Maori. He told Chapman that the Waipoua Forest, also in the Northland, conceals a "treasure trove" of such artifacts, and pointed out that:

    "The disclosures come just a few weeks after a Christchurch scientist, Richard Holdaway, confirmed that radio-carbon datings on rat bones he had discovered in the South Island proved they were about 2,000 years old."

    "Dr Holdaway, a fossil researcher, said that because New Zealand had no indigenous mammals, the rats could only have arrived with humans on sea-going craft."

    John Michael of the Morien Institute http://www.morien-institute.org

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    Pre Maori inhabitants of New Zealand from Peru?

    The Waitaha nation goes back 2000 years. This wall is much older even than that" says Barry Brailsford, MBE,(author, the 'Tattooed Land', 'Greenstone Trails', 'Song of Waitaha', 'Song of the Stone') - commenting on the Kaimanawa Forest's ancient wall


    Kaimanawa Forest's ancient wall

    Did 200 tribes of the Waitaha Nation settle in NZ 2,000 years ago, and were they decimated by the Maori 800 years ago, in an eerie foretaste of the Maori massacre of the Moriori in the Chathams? In the early 1990's Doug Sutton, Auckland University archaelogist, suggested that human beings were living in New Zealand millenia before Maori.

    The image above shows blocks, some weighing tonnes, deep in the Kaimanawa Ranges. The four visible stones are a uniform 1.9 metres wide by 1.6 metres tall, and 1 metre wide. The faces are smooth, with no saw or adze marks, and the interfaces are knife-blade thin.

    Further up the hill, the tops of other stones protrude (see the graphic below) and where the blocks would be buried creates a uniform structure, with a touchstone before the tiered structure.


    The "Song of Waitaha" was a release to the world of secret traditions, geneology, and history, as told to the author by Waitaha elders, asserts Barry Brailsford.

    Brailsford says he had to earn the right. Before beginning work on the book he had to lead a selected team of people across the Southern Alps to reopen old Waitaha greenstone trails closed for 130 years.

    He had to undertake journeys which took him into the North American desert to light "trail fires" (which resulted in Wallace Black Elk, leader of the Sioux people, turning up unexpectedly on Mr Brailsford's Christchurch doorstep) and, on another journey, deliver greenstone to the 12 American Indian nations. He also visited megalithic sites in England, Scotland and Wales.

    "Until now we have hidden our beginnings, and all that followed, in the shadows. In this way we protected our knowledge in the silence of the Whare Wananga, the School of Learning of Waitaha."

    "For it has been decided it is time for our treasures to be brought into the light."

    "We do this for the children, and their children, and all who call this land home."

    "We are of Tane Matua, and we follow Rongo Marae Roa, the God of Peace."

    "In the wisdom and aroha (love) of those words, we say: `Let the sacred kete (basket containing sacred knowledge) be opened for the ancestors to speak again. Let the ancient karakia and waiata be heard throughout the land. Welcome to the trails of the peoples of the Nation of Waitaha. May you journey far in peace and understanding."

    The history of the Nation, according to the author, begins with a man, Kiwa and a woman, Hotu Matua, both great sailors/navigators. They meet at Waitangi Ki Roto, or Easter Island.

    "Kiwa was of the Uru Kehu people, Hotu Matua of the Maoriori. He was short and fair skinned, while she was tall and dark; his hair was fired by the colours of the sun and hers the black of night; his eyes reflected the blue waters of the sea and hers the brown of the earth."

    Eventually they had a grandson, Maui,
    "a nanakia child; one who pushes against the wind, challenges the incoming tide, and asks questions that probe behind questions never asked before. In his huge mind and soaring spirit he faced the world with the courage and audacity to bargain with the Gods for the benefit of the people."

    Maui is well known in Maori tradition as the discoverer of New Zealand. The histories relate that he journeyed three times, not once, to New Zealand however, discovering in sequence the North Island, the South Island and Stewart Island - the fish, the waka and the anchor. Maui then returned to Easter Island, promising one day to return. For about 200 years the Waitaha travelled to New Zealand, each time leaving settlers, and then eventually a founding waka arrived with 175 people.

    However, when elders foresaw the destruction of their peace-loving nation by later arrivals of Maori, and whole generations of their genealogy were to be "erased" -- the knowledge was not shared outside the Waitaha, to protect the sacredness of their ancestors from violence and warfare

    The Waitaha comprised three different peoples: The Moriori, or Maeroero, who at the time were giants, over l.8m and superb gardeners, able to grow the kumara 1000 km further south than in its South American homeland.

    Herries Beattie describes them in Nga Waka Press Release I,
    "... among the first, if not the very first, residents in the South Island. They were here before Maui sailed round from Bruce Bay to Kaikoura between the years 400-450 AD ... they were a kindly people, not bloodthirsty or pugnacious, and timidly fled to the wilds before the advance of later arrivals. They were musical and could play flutes and sing, and the smoke of their fires marked their presence in out-of-the-way spots."

    Then there were the Urukehu, a fair-skinned people also known as the Starwalkers who were skilled at reading the geometry of the stars and were the navigators guiding the people to this land; and the Kiritea or Stone people, who came from Asian lands and who carried the greenstone over mountain passes.

    The Waitaha, claiming that they pre-empt the Maori of course challenge the Waitangi Tribunal. Waitaha leader Rangimarie Te Maiharoa says the settlement will "extinguish customary rights and aboriginal title of our people".

    Then in 1997 an ancient carving now being held at the Dargaville Maritime Museum, in Northland, was announced to the public. The carving - kept secret since its discovery six years ago - was restored at Auckland University.

    Museum curator and renowned historian Noel Hilliam says the rare 2.7m female carving is Waitaha and was found in sand dunes at North Head on Kaipara Harbour by a local woman. Patrick Ruka, Waitaha kaumatua, named it Pouto Ki Rongo Maraeroa.

    Particularly tantalising is a buried Waitaha village in the Kaipara dunes - it first made an appearance several years ago when a fierce storm temporarily shifted sand. Only to return and cover it up again.

    Barry Brailsford has said simply,
    "Ten years ago when I was called to write the story of Waitaha I was told by the elders that I would be challenged by Maori who did not want the story revealed, by Pakeha in the academic world who would not believe it, and by others who would walk with their own agendas."

    http://www.zealand.org.nz/history.htm

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    The White conquest of South and Central America is a tale of extreme high drama, with a very few White adventurers completely overwhelming millions of Amerinds through a combination of crushing technological superiority and brute force.
    The White conquest of South and Central America also saw two significant population makeup changes: firstly, large numbers of White settlers (mainly from Spain and Portugal) intermarried with Amerinds, creating a new mixed race group which now dominates the entire region. This is the primary cause of the large social, economic and political gap between North and South America.
    Secondly, the racial mixing which did take place absorbed the original ruling Amerind tribes in Central America (the Aztecs) and in South America (the Incas).
    The disappearance of these two leading tribes meant the disappearance of their civilizations as well: perfect examples of how racial mixing can wipe out all traces of an original people - and consequently, all manifestations of their civilization. In this case it was a non-White civilization -and an advanced one at that - which was destroyed by the integration process. The laws of nature in this regard are made of iron, and apply to all races equally.
    The Aztecs and the Legend of the White-Skinned Gods
    At the time of the White Spanish conquest of Central America, the Amerind Aztecs had created an empire which stretched from the Pacific Ocean to the Gulf of Mexico, and to the south to the present day country of Guatemala. The Aztecs were by all accounts cruel masters over other Amerind tribes, with the result that some of the subjected Amerinds actually welcomed the arrival of the Spanish. A few of these tribes would physically help the Spanish invaders against the Aztecs.
    Above left: The Codex Fejervary-Meyer, an original Amerind book drawn on treated deerskin. Above right: a detail from the Codex, illustrating the cannibalism which shocked the White explorers. According to the Aztecs, the flesh of the palm of humans was the choicest delicacy: it was a treat reserved only for the nobles. The rest of Aztec society had to quite literally make do with the bones.
    The Aztec religion was one of the reasons why there was so much resentment amongst the Amerind tribes: it demanded daily human sacrifice and most of the victims for this sacrifice were seized from surrounding Amerind tribes by the Aztecs.

    Above: This original Aztec drawing shows the practice of human sacrifice which was central to their religion.

    The Aztec religion also played a major role in destabilizing Aztec resistance to the White invaders: one of their gods was a plumed serpent named Quetzalcoatl, the god of wind and learning. According to Aztec legend, Quetzalcoatl had been tricked and disgraced by another god, Tezcatlipoca, and then traveled to the east. He vowed to return and destroy those who worshipped his enemies, accompanied by all powerful white-skinned gods.
    By the time of the Spanish assault in 1519, word of the arrival of the Whites, with their plumed helmets, in the Caribbean Sea had traveled to the Aztecs, triggering the widely held superstition that an angry Quetzalcoatl and his white-skinned gods had indeed returned to exact revenge.
    This fear created confusion in the Aztec camp: should they attack the newcomers, who might be the avenging god, or should they try and appease them? This hesitancy to act was exploited to the hilt by the Spanish invaders.
    Conquistadors: The White Conquest of South America

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    About the same time Leif Eriksson was settling in North America, other groups of Norsemen may have been landing in South America, says Prof Helmut Zettl of Vienna, Austria
    http://www.whitenewsnow.com/us-news-...html#post55104

    http://www.whitenewsnow.com/new-zeal...zealand-3.html

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    "Ginger," the oldest known Egyptian mummy, is dated around 3400 BC. He gets his name from his red hair, a trait found only in the White race.

    The oldest mummies in China have been found in the Tarim Basin. These Tocharian people pre-date the "indigenous" peoples by 1000 years and have both blonde and reddish-blonde hair. Their clothing was clearly plaid.

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