Thread: White settlers never stole any land from Africans

Originally Posted by Sigrid

Black Africans NEVER owned any land. Any form of formal ownership is a Western concept. The 'black' tribes of the mid 19th century haphazardly SETTLED in an ad hoc manner - effectively governed by tribal savagery, in other words, the most savage ruled the land (a bit like Hillbrow today). They simply ran away until they could not run anymore - not having ANY grasp of the concept of a horizon or for that matter any measure of finite land mass - eg the boundaries - that is the fundamental concept of ownership.

Who "disadvantaged" the 'black' people of the interior in Southern Africa before the (supposed) belligerent 'white' settlers moved inland in the mid 19th century..? As certainly, what the 'settlers' found was not a hugely advanced infrastructure, deep mines, airports, vast libraries of written works, grandiose institutions of learning, etc. No, as little as 170 years ago they found masses of black people (indigenous to the Southern tip of Africa, The San) living on the fringes of the stone age. Beings in skins, wielding sticks, living primitive dwellings, dragging and carrying things around, who had not even invented the wheel yet.

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http://www.timeslive.co.za/ilive/201...-from-africans

Here is a quote attributed to Dr. Albert Schweitzer about the African condition.

"I have given my life to alleviate the sufferings of Africa. There
is something that all White men who have lived here like I have must learn and
know: that these individuals are a sub-race.



They have neither the mental or emotional abilities to equate or share
equally with White men in any functions of our civilization. I have given my
life to try to bring unto them the advantages which our civilization must
offer, but I have become well aware that we must retain this status: White the
superior, and they the inferior.



For whenever a White man seeks to live among them as their equals, they
will destroy and devour him, and they will destroy all his work. And so for any
existing relationship or any benefit to this people, let White men, from
anywhere in the world, who would come to help Africa, remember that you must
maintain this status: you the master and they the inferior, like children whom
you would help or teach.



Never fraternize with them as equals. Never accept them as your social
equals or they will devour you. They will destroy you."



- Dr. Albert Schweitzer, missionary to Africa

Another quote worthy of considertion:

"No rational man, cognizant of the facts, believes that the average Negro is the equal, still less the superior, of the white man. And if this be true, it is simply incredible that, when all his disabilities are removed, and our prognathous relative has a fair field and no favor, as well as no oppressor, he will be able to compete successfully with his bigger-brained and smaller-jawed rival, in a contest which is to be carried out on by thoughts and not by bites." Thomas H. Huxley Lay Sermons, Addresses and Reviews (New York, Appleton, 1871) Definitely people in need of enlightenment.....

and another:

The Negro race has perfect contempt for humanity and is incapable of contributing to civilization. -Hegel, The Philosophy of History

and still another:

Discussion??

Blacks are living fossils and at least 500,000 years behind Whites in evolutionary terms; -smelly, wild, grotesque caricatures of human beings; no Black culture has ever produced a written language. We simply have to stop pretending that Blacks are White people with dark skin.

The harsh reality is Whites do not need Blacks. Western civilization was never "enriched" by Black "contributions;" unless one calls devastation "enrichment." Harsher reality is that Blacks need Whites. Given their inability to sustain civilization, that's understandable. So, to fix "race relations." we should implement rigid apartheid, that is, disfranchise Blacks and "others." Whites will sustain Western civilization. Blacks and "others" can sit down, shut up, and enjoy the ride. Ingratitude will earn them a one-way ticket to Africa. - SFC Steven M. Barry, USA (Ret.)

Hey, still another one from the Supreme Court:

Negroes are beings of an inferior order, and altogether unfit to associate with the White race, either in social or political relations; and so far inferior that they have no rights which a White man is bound to respect. - U.S. Supreme Court Justice Roger Taney in Dred Scott Decision, 1857.

More & More:
"If our buildings, our highways, and our railroads should be
wrecked, we could rebuild them. If our cities should be destroyed, out of the
very ruins we could erect newer and greater ones. Even if our armed might
should be crushed, we could rear sons who would redeem our power. But if the
blood of our White race should become corrupted and mingled with the blood of
Africa, then the present greatness of the United States of America would be
destroyed and all hope for civilization would be as impossible for a Negroid
America as would be redemption and restoration of the Whiteman's blood which
had been mixed with that of the Negro."



- Senator Theodore G. Bilbo, of Mississippi, U.S. Senate, 1947 continued

Hey,

Oliver said it:

"You must remember that the savages hate you because you are white. They hate you because you are the authors of a civilization that is repugnant to their native instincts. And they despise you because you are so stupid that you permitted them to vote and because you are so stupid that you permit traitors to your race to prevent your police from maintaining order." Our situation is desperate, and we can afford no illusions, no retreat into a land of dreams. Now, more than ever, optimism is cowardice. - Revilo Pendleton Oliver, Ph.D

Originally Posted by Sigrid

Black Africans NEVER owned any land. Any form of formal ownership is a Western concept. The 'black' tribes of the mid 19th century haphazardly SETTLED in an ad hoc manner - effectively governed by tribal savagery, in other words, the most savage ruled the land

It is complete true.
Nothing was taken away from blacks - because they had nothing

case - closed

blacks were busy with other things (no ownership )
an interesting text that I even translated into Serbian :

http://www.heretical.org/cannibal/nguinea2.html

"When the White man finds a desert,
he turns it into an oasis.

When the Yellow man finds an oasis in the desert,
he maintains it.

When the black man encounters an oasis,
he turns it into a desert."

The truth of the matter is that Blacks in South Africa and elsewhere had a better living under White rule rather than the types of "leaders" like Mugabe and others of today.

Originally Posted by Sigrid

The truth of the matter is that Blacks in South Africa and elsewhere had a better living under White rule rather than the types of "leaders" like Mugabe and others of today.

Since the end of apartheid the Negro life expectancy has dropped significantly. I wish the liberals luck in explaining that one.

Originally Posted by INVIKTUS

Since the end of apartheid the Negro life expectancy has dropped significantly. I wish the liberals luck in explaining that one.

Racism is making them die at an earlier age.

Originally Posted by Sigrid

Racism is making them die at an earlier age.

Spot on. The excuse is that it takes time to recover from the legacy of White supremacy. The standard in Zimbabwe, when they seized a White farm, was to slaughter all the animals for a feast and then torch the homestead. Somehow it was still Whitey's fault that the Negroes went hungry.

Originally Posted by Karl Lueger

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Little of topic , Karl Lueger was a great man ...
I love his quote
"I decide who is a jew"

Originally Posted by RFYoung

Hey,

Oliver said it:

"You must remember that the savages hate you because you are white. They hate you because you are the authors of a civilization that is repugnant to their native instincts. And they despise you because you are so stupid that you permitted them to vote and because you are so stupid that you permit traitors to your race to prevent your police from maintaining order." Our situation is desperate, and we can afford no illusions, no retreat into a land of dreams. Now, more than ever, optimism is cowardice. - Revilo Pendleton Oliver, Ph.D

Very good historical quotes RF.

The Albert Schweitzer quotes are reminiscent of his direct quotes in his Time Magazine "man of the year" interview from 1954, iirc.