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I heard a Jewish talk show host actually defending the TSA groping.

Most Jews think: the more power for the government (which they control), the better.

The John and Ken Show in California has had some great shows on this.

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John Kobylt essentially says you're being forced to get irradiated (by the naked picture machine whose long term effect is largely unknown) or your whole family including children get groped by government employees, who willingly chose to take jobs, where they grope people all day long.

There has never been a plane brought down by someone with an 8 ounce bottle of anything or even a shoe bomb.

The "underwear bomber" was a complete failure, and he's supposedly the reason for all this groping and privacy intrusions.

We don't need horrible draconian measures that torture or traumatize passengers for so-called "threats" which have never brought down a plane.

All we need to do to prevent another 911 is to ban Middle Eastern men from flying on commercial planes. Letting police officers carry a gun when they fly would be an inexpensive way to increase security on airplanes. That would be infinitely more effective than letting some TSA lesbian grope your 13 year old daughter.

Who chaired the committee to draw up these TSA procedures? Barney Frank?

Federal V.I.P Penn - 11/13/02

Last Thursday I was flying to LA on the Midnight flight. I went through security my usual sour stuff. I beeped, of course, and was shuttled to the "toss-em" line. A security guy came over. I assumed the position. I had a button up shirt on that was untucked. He reached around while he was behind me and grabbed around my front pocket. I guess he was going for my flashlight, but the area could have loosely been called "crotch." I said, "You have to ask me before you touch me or it's assault."

He said, "Once you cross that line, I can do whatever I want."

I said that wasn't true. I say that I have the option of saying no and not flying. He said, "Are you going to let me search you, or do I just throw you out?"

I said, "Finish up, and then call the police please."

When he was finished with my shoes, he said, "Okay, you can go."

I said, "I'd like to see your supervisor and I'd like LVPD to come here as well. I was assaulted by you."

He said, "You're free to go, there's no problem."

I said, "I have a problem, please send someone over."

They sent a guy over and I said that I'd like to register a complaint. I insisted on his name and badge number. I filled it out with my name. The supervisor, I think trying to intimidate me, asked for my license, and I gave it to him happily as he wrote down information. I kept saying, "Please get the police," and they kept saying, "You're free to go, we don't need the police." I insisted and they got a higher up, female, supervisor. I was polite, cold, and a little funny. "Anyone is welcome to grab my crotch, I don't require dinner and a movie, just ask me. Is that asking too much? You wanna grab my crotch, please ask. Does that seem like a crazy person to you?" I had about 4 of them standing around. Finally Metro PD shows up. It's really interesting. First of all, the cop is a BIG P&T fan and that ain't hurting. Second, I get the vibe that he is WAY sick of these federal leather-sniffers. He has that vibe that real cops have toward renta-cops. This is working WAY to my advantage, so I play it.

The supervisor says to the cop, 'He's free to go. We have no problem, you don't have to be here." Which shows me that the Feds are afraid of local. This is really cool. She says, "We have no trouble and he doesn't want to miss his flight."

I say, "I can take an early morning flight or a private jet. " The cop says, "If I have a citizen who is saying he was assaulted, you can't just send me away."

I tell the cop the story, in a very funny way. The cop, the voice of sanity says, "What's wrong with you people? You can't just grab a guy's crank without his permission." I tell him that my genitals weren't grabbed and the cop says, "I don't care, you can't do that to people. That's assault and battery in my book."

The supervisor says that they'll take care of the security guy. The cop says, "I'm not leaving until Penn tells me to. Now do you want to fill out all the paper work and show up in court, because I'll be right there beside you."

The supervisor says it's an internal matter, and they'll take care of it. "If you want to pursue this, we're going to have to go through the electronic evidence."

I say, "You mean videotape? Yeah, go get it."

She says, "Well, it'll take a long time, and you don't want to miss your flight. We have no problem with you, you're free to go."

The cop says, "Your guy grabbed his crank. That ain't right."

So, I fill out all the paper work and insist on a number to call to register a complaint. She says that I filled out a complaint, and I say, "I want more, give me another number. " She gives me a number that I find out later has been disconnected. I leave. I have a card with the name and number on it and the bad 800 number for the FAA.

My flight is way delayed, so I go to Burger King with Glenn - and all the feds are now off duty and at BK and sneering at us.

The next day the woman in charge of public relations calls me to "do anything to make my McCarran experience more enjoyable." I was a little under the weather with allergies and busy, so I didn't call back until yesterday.

It took some phone tag, but I finally got the woman on the phone. I was very cool and sweet. I explained the problem. "Do you allow your crotch to be grabbed without being asked?" I didn't exaggerate, I said that there was nothing sexual, I wasn't hurt, and it wasn't my genitals. I just said it was wrong. She said "Well, your feedback is really important because most people are afraid of us." She said, "I'd love to meet you so we could clear this up, and everyone wants to meet a celebrity." She said she had watched the videotape and there was no sound, but she saw him reach around. She said she couldn't tell me what was being done to him but . . . and I stopped her and said, she shouldn't do anything wrong.

I said that I had talked to two lawyers and they said it was really a weird case because no one knows if he can be charged with assault and battery while working in that job. But I told her, that some of my lawyer friends really wanted to find out. She said, "Well, we're very new to this job . . ." and I said, "Yeah, so we need these test cases to find out where you stand."

She said, "Well, you know a LOT about this." I said, "Well, it's not really the right word, but freedom is kind of a hobby with me, and I have disposable income that I'll spend to find out how to get people more of it."

She said, "Well, the airport is very important to all of our incomes and we don't want bad press. It'll hurt everyone, but you have to do what you think is right. But, if you give me your itinerary every time you fly, I'll be at the airport with you and we can make sure it's very pleasant for you."

I have no idea what this means, does it mean that they have a special area where all the friskers are topless showgirls, "We have nothing to hide, do you?" I have no idea. She pushes me for the next time I'm flying. I tell her I'm flying to Chicago around 2 on Sunday, if she wants to get that security guy there to sneer at me. She says, she'll be there, and it'll be very easy for me. I have no idea what this means.

I tell her that I'm still thinking about pressing charges, and I don't just care about me, it's freedom in general. I say the only thing that was good about it, was that while they were dealing with me, maybe they weren't beating up people in wheelchairs. It was amazing. All she was trying to do was make me happy. She said she'd burned a CD ROM of my video and it was being sent all around and they were going to change their training. She said, "We're federal employees, we're working for you, you pay us and we want customer satisfaction. It doesn't matter what the law is, we have to make you very happy so your flying experience is a pleasurable one, and most people don't give us this kind of intelligent feedback."

So, that was it. I'm flying on Sunday, I have no idea what will happen. How crazy is this? Do I really have some sort of mysterious VIP status to shut me up? Should I press charges? She said she was going to talk to the cop. I said he didn't see anything. She said, "Well, he may be able to see the forest for the trees, because he was right there." I quoted his "crank" comment and she laughed and then knew that was a very bad sign. I said, "He'll tell you I was polite, cold, angry, and funny" - that's more than should be expected of me. I still don't know what I'm going to do, but my advice to everyone is complain all you can and call the cops. I think it might make a little difference. Maybe you can become a VIP too.

Penn

Originally Posted by Smedley Butler

I heard a Jewish talk show host actually defending the TSA groping.

Most Jews think: the more power for the government (which they control), the better.

Good for all these people willing to challenge this federal harassment at airports.

No plane has ever been brought down by a shoe bomb or eight ounce bottle of anything.

They're searching White people, who don't blow up airliners, for objects that are ineffective.

WOW!!! In a sick twist, Janet Napolitano is considering exempting Muslim women from patdowns!!! This is a First Amendment violation giving any group that kind of exemption!

YouTube - OMG... Big Sis Considers Giving Exemptions to Muslim Women at Airports

When Jews run the country, nothing makes sense. What is sensible and true, is good for the people and good for the country. But because the Jews are trying to destroy the people and the country, the illogical and the untrue are what become official policy.

TSA ='tis sexual assault!

Did anyone in Washington state see anything on the news about this?

It really should be a national story, but I'm sure the story is being suppressed since it's a Black quota-hire who went bad.

And now with the TSA wanting to grope your genitals, they don't want to admit how low quality their work force is.

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Air marshal charged in gunpoint rape of Seattle woman | KOMO News - Breaking News, Sports, Traffic and Weather - Seattle, Washington | Local & Regional

A federal air marshal has been charged with rape on allegations that he sexually assaulted a woman at gunpoint in a SeaTac hotel.

Lecheton O. Settles, 30, was arrested early Saturday morning.

He called an escort to his room at the Marriott Hotel the night before, then raped her at gunpoint after showing the woman his official identification, according to charging documents filed in King County Superior Court.

"The defendant used his position as a federal air marshal and his government-issued firearm to commit this crime," Senior Deputy Prosecutor Charles K. Sergis told the court. "He raped the victim and by threatening her with his gun and claiming she had to do what he said because he is an air marshal."

Speaking with King County Sheriff's Office detectives, the Seattle woman said Settles contacted her through an escort website. Having agreed to perform a "show" for Settles for $180 dollars, the woman arrived at the South 176th Street hotel at 11:20 p.m. to find the air marshal clothed and waiting for her.

The woman went to the hotel room bathroom to change, according to charging documents. When she emerged, Settles was nude except for his marshal's badge hanging from his neck; he held a pistol in his hand.

"U.S. marshal," Settles allegedly told the woman. "You have to do what I tell you to do."

Settles raped the woman on the bed, according to charging documents. He then demanded she return the money he'd paid her.

Somebody did get a picture from the arraignment. Here's the ex-Air Marshal and his blond female lawyer. Hope he doesn't rape her too!!





Federal air marshal pleads not guilty in SeaTac rape | KOMO News - Breaking News, Sports, Traffic and Weather - Seattle, Washington | Local & Regional

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So all they will have to do is flash their ID and pass through an express line?

Originally Posted by Former Liberal

So the very people, the very race that has caused this whole global security panic could now be exempt.

Does anything make sense anymore???

Maybe this proves that they were never the target for tyranny to begin with.

Who was?

YOU.

I recently went home to family in Mannheim,Germany. Coming back I went through those machines twice. All they did was prove beyond a doubt that I am not a Jew. Do they keep records on those things?

Hans "Jerry" C

There's one airline that doesn't put up with that:

The Israeli airline El Al has a policy of singling out young Arabs for extensive search procedures, but is quick to point out that, in spite of ongoing war in the middle east, it has not had a hijacking in over thirty years.

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