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    Default White Nationalism, White Separatism or White Secession ?

    Members of WNN.
    What do you think is more feasible in the future:


    A) Establishing a White Nationalist Country, through political power, with a vehicle like American Third Position?

    B) Establishing White separatist areas like April Gaede is doing in Kalispell, Montana or others, ie. Southern Appalachia, etc.?

    C) Establishing secessionist movements like that of Covington's Northwest American Republic and the League of the South's new confederacy?
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    It doesn't matter which one you choose, whites have already lost their homelands to the invaders & the elite Commie-scum.

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    For the United States, white separatism, with secession in the long-run. We need to have a role in national politics as well, to make sure that the rights of white communities aren't violated.
    "A mob is coming here in six months to hang the other ninety-five of you damned scoundrels, and I'm undecided whether to stick here with you or go out and lead them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsnake View Post
    For the United States, white separatism, with secession in the long-run. We need to have a role in national politics as well, to make sure that the rights of white communities aren't violated.


    Great points Kingsnake -- white separatism evolving eventually into secession, with a national presence as an umbrella to protect our goals.


    I tried originally to make this thread into a poll, to get the drift on the WNN membership, but that option was not available to me.
    At any rate, Kingsnake, great post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recalcitrant I View Post

    I tried originally to make this thread into a poll, to get the drift on the WNN membership, but that option was not available to me.
    It would be a great idea but you should put some options in that pool about future for all WNs around the globe not only in america ...

    and about this question I chose >>

    >>> White separatism which will only lead to White secessionism - becouse that is our only chance to survive ... - secessionism on all levels ...
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    I don't think we should run to other areas to form a "pack" of Whites. That would make us too vulnerable a target. First things first - White nationalism is the way to go and all other things will follow in whatever natural order that takes place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigrid View Post
    I don't think we should run to other areas to form a "pack" of Whites. That would make us too vulnerable a target. First things first - White nationalism is the way to go and all other things will follow in whatever natural order that takes place.

    I hear what you're saying Sigrid. I would like to see A3P, et al. succeed, I really would.
    However, the Bolshevik control over this country, combined with their control over their negro stooges, compounded by the pathetic white sheeple, might be a bridge too far. Nevertheless, WN deserves its best shot.

    I also don't think secession is "running away". It's a practical matter. Not only can we live among our own kind, we'll have the advantage of not carrying these moronic minorities economically. I'd love to see them drown in their own arrogant stupidity, once and for all, when they try to survive on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsnake View Post
    For the United States, white separatism, with secession in the long-run. We need to have a role in national politics as well, to make sure that the rights of white communities aren't violated.
    You beat me to it, great post.
    Lets not leave out a show of force every once in a while in key areas to grab public attention. We must play the game in and out of the box to cover our bases, a little infiltration and counter intelligence wouldn't hurt either. There are many tools and paths for us to work with, lets use them all instead of focusing on just one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SRBSKA SPARTA View Post
    It would be a great idea but you should put some options in that pool about future for all WNs around the globe not only in america ...

    and about this question I chose >>

    >>> White separatism which will only lead to White secessionism - becouse that is our only chance to survive ... - secessionism on all levels ...
    I'll try not to sound to calus....
    At this point in time we should focus on our local nations, that means the Europeans and Eastern block needs to figure out what to do in their own locals....
    Do what you need to do to survive.
    As an American, I say we need to focus only on our Nation and get out of this mess, because if America does fall the only Nation that has a chance is Russia and unfortunately they are already compromised from the Soviet era.....
    Once America regains its sanity and strength then and only then can we maneuver to lend a helping hand to our kin around the world.
    " I have my Path and none will detour me from it, if you are on my path you may either join me, or you can move aside and allow me to continue uninhibited, or if you insist, I will stop for a moment and destroy you as my adversary, then continue on my path."
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    Default Re: White Nationalism, White Separatism or White Secession ?

    Quote Originally Posted by DESERTFOX63 View Post
    I'll try not to sound to calus....
    At this point in time we should focus on our local nations, that means the Europeans and Eastern block needs to figure out what to do in their own locals....
    Do what you need to do to survive.
    As an American, I say we need to focus only on our Nation and get out of this mess, because if America does fall the only Nation that has a chance is Russia and unfortunately they are already compromised from the Soviet era.....
    Once America regains its sanity and strength then and only then can we maneuver to lend a helping hand to our kin around the world.
    Of course I agree
    Of course you should first work on the national level ..
    so am I, and I said - secession at all levels
    And it must be done very quickly - our race is biologicaly dying

    1.becouse of low birth rates
    2.BUT even more because of race mixing - it's racial genocide

    We do not have much time ... no time for compromise and dialogue and for soft solutions ...
    I do not seek radical solutions, but only logical ones - the only logical solution today is - radicalism

    If you do not make secession - our race will continue to die because of racial mixing


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    Quote Originally Posted by Recalcitrant I View Post
    Members of WNN.
    What do you think is more feasible in the future:


    A) Establishing a White Nationalist Country, through political power, with a vehicle like American Third Position?

    B) Establishing White separatist areas like April Gaede is doing in Kalispell, Montana or others, ie. Southern Appalachia, etc.?

    C) Establishing secessionist movements like that of Covington's Northwest American Republic and the League of the South's new confederacy?
    I might say "D" all of the above. As political movements go, there is usually a split between radical and reform adherents. We need both... it's a matter of who you are and how you see things that determines on what side you fall.

    As that goes, I like the A3P and the Northwest Front. I think the A3P can pull a lot of people from the conservative and libertarian political sectors and give White Nationalism a legitimate face in the political sphere. I can't think of a time where we've had such a great group of White Nationalists take the forefront. That's a very exciting development.

    Considering my own philosophical proclivities, political strategy and our people's current circumstances, I like the Northwest Migration and Butler plan. The way this country is going, collapse is inevitable and I think we should begin preparing now for that event. There is nothing violent or illegal about us making such preparations. We should be forming physical communities, learning how to defend ourselves, learning trades that have practical necessity, and clearing up our finances. The Pacific Northwest, IMO, is the best place for us to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njlawrence View Post
    I might say "D" all of the above. As political movements go, there is usually a split between radical and reform adherents. We need both... it's a matter of who you are and how you see things that determines on what side you fall.

    As that goes, I like the A3P and the Northwest Front. I think the A3P can pull a lot of people from the conservative and libertarian political sectors and give White Nationalism a legitimate face in the political sphere. I can't think of a time where we've had such a great group of White Nationalists take the forefront. That's a very exciting development.

    Considering my own philosophical proclivities, political strategy and our people's current circumstances, I like the Northwest Migration and Butler plan. The way this country is going, collapse is inevitable and I think we should begin preparing now for that event. There is nothing violent or illegal about us making such preparations. We should be forming physical communities, learning how to defend ourselves, learning trades that have practical necessity, and clearing up our finances. The Pacific Northwest, IMO, is the best place for us to do that.

    Great points and well stated njlawrence - If I may - different adherents traveling down different roads, all leading to the same place, attracting like-minded personalities to one of those roads, depending on one's perspective. An organic road, analogous to vines on a trellis, moving in the same direction with variances.


    I also agree with you; the leadership of A3P is inspiring.
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    August 21-31 2012 - The 20th Anniversary of the Federal siege and racial murders at Ruby Ridge. --- Never Forget.

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    I honestly don't see any sort of mutual cooperation with a federal government that doesn't hold White interests at heart. We would just all relocate to a particular area of the US, but what would stop them from building section 8 housing and busing in "Diversity" to live here? Even if the state and local is on our side, if the federal government is against us, then they will do anything they can to throw wrenches in our operations.

    We need to look at the bigger picture and the real problems at the root cause, instead of thinking we can just run away from and ignore them all, because they will just come back to bite us in the rear.

    I don't see this as a long term solution. Getting our votes and voices combined into one area would seem like a good idea, it would get us a local and state government that suits us, but we would still have to answer to ZOG at the end of the day. Arizona tried to resist, and then suddenly Jan Brewer gets cold feet. Whether she was bought out, or intimidated, we will probably never know, but I am sure it was one of the 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Frosty View Post
    I honestly don't see any sort of mutual cooperation with a federal government that doesn't hold White interests at heart. We would just all relocate to a particular area of the US, but what would stop them from building section 8 housing and busing in "Diversity" to live here? Even if the state and local is on our side, if the federal government is against us, then they will do anything they can to throw wrenches in our operations.

    We need to look at the bigger picture and the real problems at the root cause, instead of thinking we can just run away from and ignore them all, because they will just come back to bite us in the rear.

    I don't see this as a long term solution. Getting our votes and voices combined into one area would seem like a good idea, it would get us a local and state government that suits us, but we would still have to answer to ZOG at the end of the day. Arizona tried to resist, and then suddenly Jan Brewer gets cold feet. Whether she was bought out, or intimidated, we will probably never know, but I am sure it was one of the 2.
    I agree...

    We are only seeing the tip of the iceberg. There is always much more below the surface. The current political system is like a bed of weeds, and Ron Paul, bless his heart, is the only one talking about freedom. He is careful about what he says though, he is smart about that. You can try to go through our political system, but others have tried that before. We are not pre-war Germany, when it worked for Hitler. We cannot make the comparisons.

    I really think as far as civilizations go, we have gone past the event horizon. Being hopeful is nice, but in reality, we had the power taken from us, and we have been shaken into the corner. The event horizon was back in the 1970s, that is how much we have gone past. What are you going to do about all the blacks and mexicans and white traitors that definitely outnumber us?

    The hearts and souls of the majority of Whites have been damaged by modern society. I like technology, too, but when it is used against us... I am not a "no-technology" person, in fact, I love science. But most of mankind has bought into something very deceptive. Very few care more about Liberty and Freedom than their own egoes.

    History, real history is so important, because it already tells us what is going to happen. I may differ from others because I believe we have left the point of no-return. We all missed it when we were busy living life.

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    Good day Brothers and Sisters, This is my first post to this site. I am very glad to have found it and plan on daily activity on the site. I agree with both statements above, I also believe our only hope at this point is bringing back to our children and white adults our rich cultural idendtity, as an Aryan people a world minority we have have as a "tribe" built this world as we know it today. The liberal establishment movement has tried to reconnect all non-whites with their roots and made up accomplishments while at the same time trying to make Aryan pride and celebration of culture and family a shamefull thing. The last decade they have worked diligently lead by their white guilt ridden leaders. The problem all along was that someday they would push to far, cross the line of equality and seek the all out distruction of the Aryan people. We see today the effects and fruits of their labor as they have now nearly made our Great Nation a paycheck away from 3rd world status. As my first post I will not get into details of how we can reverse this trend but I am so thankful to have an outlet to reach and network with those who seek the revival we so desperatly need. We can avoid the dark road South Africa has went down but our time is limited and we must work together on the same basic principles and ends. At this time recruitment is and should be goal number 1, somehow we must bring together all of the White sepratist movements while setting aside each movements beliefs that might differ somewhat with other groups in order to achieve our ultimate goal of Aryan unity and saving our Aryan nation.
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    Good day Brothers and Sisters, in my opinion option B would be the way to go to achieve our ultimate goal of White sepratism. We already have 88% of rural area's where we are 90% of the demographic. The time has come to establish local branches in each and every small rural town. Our biggest hurdle will be bringing together the different White factions to Allie with a central overall main movement a confederation of groups if you may, We must have a solid founding with guiding principles led by our own declaration of independence from non-whites in the United States. Without a head ond the chicken we will just flounder. In the Aryan movement in the US their are different views and different goals, without consolidating we will never see our number one goal achieved of a return to Aryan rule of our Country and fix the fractured state of our Aryan families, culture, and set the bedrock for our doomed generations to come.

    My personal belief is that for the first time in our Nations history Aryans who previously could not see what was happening, or it did not directly bother their cushy lives have now been
    startled and shocked that they came out and voted to the highest level % wise of Aryan's for a Presidential candidate and then watch as there vote together no longer can dictate who leads our Nation.....shocker to many who have slept through the last 20 years while 1k plus illegals have walked across the border and slowley invaded small town America. The problem is now epicdemic, political means is no longer an answer. The problem is even much larger than many know.....10 short years ago small town Cullman Alabama was old time Mulberry 100% white, great schools, safe neighborhoods, kindship. Forward 10 years on any given day the health department has at least 10 prenant mexican women in line to get foodstamps, checks, WIC, and many others programs, this is each and every day and Cullman is not special it has and is happening in every small town accross America. And still they flood across daily 700-1000 a day....anyone can see what this is leading to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsnake View Post
    For the United States, white separatism, with secession in the long-run. We need to have a role in national politics as well, to make sure that the rights of white communities aren't violated.
    In my opinion the liberal establishment has made it all but impossible to have a political solution, you can look how well that worked for the former western power South Africa. I am currently working on a structure a UN if you may for the Aryan race where as each faction voted to charter in other Aryan groups to have a voting seat at the round table thus of many we come together as one on our main goal. The governing body of the "UN" will consist of the founding body and will operate similar to that of the current "UN" without the corruption. Our "UN" should be built with the consent of each founding group commander and rules set forth will be written by a consultation of all founding commanders so that each groups people views are represented, when it comes to allegiance we shall all give such to the "UN". The founding members shall each hold one vote for their respective group. With these votes a majority of 1 shall be considered the decision rendered forth to be abided by all the charters. Each Commander may bring up for vote any issue by sending a written description along with a plea for the subject matter of his vote request to be sent no less than Thirty calendar days to the "UN" which will then get the request out to each charter with time to view with group, this will come along with a vote date and time.The following "UN" command structure shall hold no power over the respective charter groups and shall be used as a purpose of consolidating our fractured Aryan groups around the Country to close a tight circle of brotherhood for our people. The "UN" shall consist of a commander, vice commander, Secretary, treasurer, East coast Captain, central Captain, and west Captain each responsible for State Commanders and in charge of setting up local chapters in each town within their State. Once we have this type of organization only then can we truly wield any power. On our first meeting we shall craft the founding Charter and bylaws by majority vote.
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    A great NPR article that exposes the truth.

    Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants


    As the nation's attention turns back to the fractured debate over immigration, it might be helpful to remember that in 1986, Ronald Reagan signed a sweeping immigration reform bill into law. It was sold as a crackdown: There would be tighter security at the Mexican border, and employers would face strict penalties for hiring undocumented workers.

    But the bill also made any immigrant who'd entered the country before 1982 eligible for amnesty — a word not usually associated with the father of modern conservatism.

    In his renewed push for an immigration overhaul this week, President Obama called for Republican support for a bill to address the growing population of illegal immigrants in the country. This time, however, Republicans know better than to tread near the politically toxic A-word.

    Part of this aversion is due to what is widely seen as the failure of Reagan's 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act. However, one of the lead authors of the bill says that unlike most immigration reform efforts of the past 20 years, amnesty wasn't the pitfall.

    "We used the word 'legalization,' " former Wyoming Sen. Alan K. Simpson tells NPR's Guy Raz. "And everybody fell asleep lightly for a while, and we were able to do legalization."

    The law granted amnesty to nearly 3 million illegal immigrants, yet was largely considered unsuccessful because the strict sanctions on employers were stripped out of the bill for passage.

    Simpson says the amnesty provision actually saved the act from being a total loss. "It's not perfect, but 2.9 million people came forward. If you can bring one person out of an exploited relationship, that's good enough for me."
    A Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants : NPR
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    Default Re: Disenfranchised White Males: Time for Secession

    I'll say this, we are not ready for secession, YET! But I think all the secession talk is a sign there is still life in White Americans. Thing is they won't admit the real reason for even an action as extreme as secession, yet. A very active White Nationalist had a mutual friend on Facebook who is a Conservative but not racial post this in repsonse to my statement that any secession must be raced based or would be an exercise in futility:


    Race is not the issue. Marxism vs. Liberty is the issue.
    But I quickly countered that race WAS the real reason and that Haiti was Haiti and Mexico was Mexico and America is not what it used to be for racial reasons. This election has presented a golden opportunity to awaken White Americans that would not have been available until 2020 had Mitt Romney (who would not have done one thing for White people and who was tremoring to get us into war with Iran) won. I look at it like we got an 8 year head start!!!
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    Default Re: White Nationalism, White Separatism or White Secession ?

    It seem's it cannot be left in our hands and marinate, those of us that are truly worried about the coming demise Of the US came out and sided with one candidate at the highest WN % for a presidential candidate only to watch our votes beat down by fraud and the minority vote sticking together along racial lines of anti-white at very high levels. There is no other half breed waiting on the bench to run for President but I think the damage already done will pale in comparison now that obama can do what he has been planning all along after getting re-fraud elected the final destruction of 200 years of WN rule of this once great nation. Seek and destroy any pockets of resistance or Liberty fighters for WN power. Re-distribute along the lines of South Africa's anc, we will not survive to fight another day once he begins his final stages of fundamental change and with two more supreme court picks he seals the WN doom.
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