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    The Māori arrived sometime before A.D. 1300, and all moa genera were soon driven to extinction by hunting and, to a lesser extent, forest clearance. By about A.D. 1400 almost all moa are generally thought to have become extinct, along with the Haast's Eagle which had relied on them for food
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    NEW ZEALAND'S PRE-HUMAN AVIFAUNA AND ITS
    VULNERABILITY


    Summary:
    In the past 1000 years New Zealand has experienced a major 'extinction event', losing 40-50% of the
    avifauna, at least 50% of the frog fauna, and unknown proportions of the lizard and invertebrate faunas.
    During this period, bird species became extinct at different times and rates depending on the particular aspects
    of their ecology and life history which made them vulnerable to habitat loss, hunting, predation, and
    competition for food resources. Three groups of species with different levels of vulnerability are recognised
    within this event:
    Group I, 1000-1200 AD


    - species susceptible to initial impact of hunting by Polynesians and dogs, and predation
    and competition for food after an explosive irruption of kiore

    (Rattus exulans);
    Group II, 1200-1780 AD

    - species more resilient but gradually reduced by Polynesian hunting and continuous
    clearance and fragmentation of habitat;
    Group III, 1780-present


    - species susceptible to hunting with European weapons and predation by Rattus
    norvegicus, R. rattus,

    mustelids, cats, and to competition by mammalian herbivores, and destruction of wet
    forest and wetland habitat.
    Climatic change is seen as a negligible influence relative to these major intrusions. Discussions of the pre-human
    avifauna have so far concentrated almost exclusively on moas (Aves: Dinornithidae, Anomalopterygidae), partly
    because information on the other extinct species is sparse. The ecology of 12 species in the pre-human avifauna
    is inferred from their anatomy, relationships to extant species, sub-fossil evidence of diets, and analogy with
    related forms elsewhere.

    Palaeo-environment
    The pre-human avifauna was dominated by forest and
    wetland birds. Forests covered most of the land below
    tree-line (McGlone, this volume), but the forest fauna
    was radically different from that documented by
    Europen explorers 100-200 years ago. Sub fossil
    remains from caves and other deposits suggest that,
    before the arrival of Polynesians about 1000 years
    ago, the fauna was rich and diverse.
    Declines in relict populations of


    Powelliphanta
    snails (Mollusca: Paryphantidae) (Meads


    et al., 1984)
    and the large wetas (Insecta: Stenopelmatidae) (Watt,
    1975) suggest that prehistoric populations were almost
    certainly far greater in numbers and more continuous.
    The great reductions in range, and the clear
    correlation between presence of introduced predators
    and absence or extremely low numbers of large
    invertebrates, lizards, and tuatara, strongly suggest
    that extinctions have occurred and that many
    mainland populations are now truly relict (Crook,
    1973; Whitaker, 1973; Campbell

    et al., 1984). Many
    of the disjunct distributions in the lizard fauna (e.g.
    Cyclodina)


    are in areas which were not greatly
    affected by climatic changes or physical disruption
    during the Pleistocene (Towns

    et al., 1985).
    Conversely, one of the extreme relicts is

    Leiolopisma
    acrinasum

    which presumably survived through the
    worst of the glaciations in Fiordland or subsequently
    recolonised the area within a few thousand years.
    Leiopelmatid frogs were widespread on both
    islands. Today,

    Leiopelma hamiltoni is restricted to
    Stephens and Maud Islands in the Marlborough
    Sounds, but has been found in cave deposits as far
    south as Punakaiki, and at Waitomo and Hawkes Bay
    in the North Island (Worthy, 1987a). Worthy (1987a)
    describes 3 new species of
    Leiopelma from cave
    deposits, including a species much larger than


    L.
    hamiltoni.

    Frogs must have been a major feature of
    the fauna of the pre-human forest floor, judging by
    the abundant remains being found in caves whose
    entrances were once within forest.
    A variety of skinks (Scincidae) and geckos
    (Gekkonidae) still occurs on the main islands of New
    Zealand, but they are far more conspicuous and
    abundant on islands without mammals, particularly
    rats. Before humans arrived, lizards were probably as
    abundant on the mainland as they are now on the
    islands (Whitaker, 1973). Subfossil lizard material,
    usually not identified to species, has been found in
    caves and other deposits in many mainland areas (e.g.
    Rich

    et al., 1979). Worthy (1987b) reports Cyclodina
    alani,

    C. macgregori, C. whitakeri and Hoplodactylus
    duvauceli

    from widespread localities in the North
    Island.
    The tuatara

    (Sphenodon punctatus) is now
    confined to offshore islands, and breeds successfully
    only on those lacking the kiore or Polynesian rat,
    Rattus exulans


    and other Rattus species (Crook,
    1973). Yet, the subfossil distribution of tuatara
    includes most parts of both main islands (Bull and
    Whitaker, 1975; Cassels, 1984). Its previous
    distribution indicates that it was a widespread member
    of the ground fauna when Polynesians arrived.
    The endemic bat

    Mystacina tuberculata has
    exploited an unusually diverse range of foods in the
    absence of mammalian competitors. Daniel (1979)
    reports that it feeds on the ground, foliage, and tree
    trunk, takes insects on the wing, and eats fruits and
    nectar. In some ways it was an analogue of shrews,
    honey possums, and other bat groups. It also builds
    its own galleries in fallen trees and occupies petrel
    burrows. Not much is known about the only other
    New Zealand species,

    M. robusta, and it may even be
    extinct (Hill and Daniel, 1985), but it used to be
    widespread and is frequent in cave deposits near
    Waitomo (T. Worthy, pers. comm.).
    Remains of petrels are prominent in many cave
    and dune deposits throughout New Zealand. Where
    the deposits are inland, in hills still covered with heavy
    forest, they probably reflect former breeding colonies.
    A few mainland colonies persist in some areas (e.g.
    Procellaria westlandica


    at Punakaiki, Puffinus huttoni
    near Kaikoura) or at least have existed in European
    times


    (Procellaria parkinsoni and Pterodroma
    inexpectata).

    Some of the dune deposits may indicate
    former colonies rather than beach strandings
    (Millener, 1981). Mainland cave deposits contain some
    of the small prions
    (Pachyptila spp.)
    http://www.nzes.org.nz/nzje/free_iss...col12_s_11.pdf


    Maori arrived in New Zealand some time between the 10th century- 14th century.


    The 10th century is the period from 901 to 1000 in accordance with the Julian calendar in the Christian/Common Era.

    the 14th century was the century which lasted from 1301 to 1400.

    So there is a possibility that Vikings, Celts or Both
    travelled to New Zealand.




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    !!STOP the DENIAL!! and !!DESTRUCTION of ANCIENT CELTIC NZ!!

    For years now ancient skeletal remains and artifacts including stone walls, stone dwellings, stone fireplaces, altars and petroglyhs carved in stone have been discovered all over New Zealand.

    These remains are anscestors of this country, but instead of studying and/or preserving these priceless discoveries they have been left unprotected and under constant threat from development.

    In 2005 in the Kaipara District a pig hunter found human bones. A curator of the Dargaville Maritime Museum and a team of researchers investigated the findings. They found 3 types of skeletons, some were 7-8 feet tall, some were of a small pygmy size, the others were normal.

    A specialist who examined the the remains likened the small ones to a race of people living in Wales 3000 years ago. This discovery was not made public. The size and shape of the skulls found were clearly not polynesian.

    An archaeologist found carbon datings around one of the one of the stone cairns near the Waipoua forest 2.3 metres down that proved there were people living in New Zealand 5000 years ago. Stone dwellings, walls and other ancient stone artifacts were also found in the Waipoua forest.

    * The remains of twelve skeletons were unearthed by contractors doing earthwork on a farm in Taranaki. They were in a formal European burial ground which was similar to the bog burials of Britain. The burial ground was not known, even to the local iwi. The skeletons were well preserved in woven material but no photography or forensic testing was permitted.

    * Just over a deade ago in Waikaretu, skeletons were once again discovered by earthworks contractors. They were found in a cave in stone crypts. Anthropologists were called in but the site was shut down and a 75 year moratorium was placed upon it. Stone housing found near the Waikaretu stream was crushed to use for road metal.

    These are just few of the hundreds if not thousands of discoveries that have been made over the whole of New Zealand (including remains found on my family farm in Raglan) and not just recently but over many decades.

    These ancient people need our voice, our strength and our unity to protect and preserve their very existence!!!
    We, the undersigned call on the New Zealand Government to (Without Political Bias) respectfully adhere to our requests...

    1. Acknowledge the existence of all Ancient New Zealander's.

    2. Let our true history and culture be known, open and honestly.

    3. Uplift or squash the 75 year moratorium that was placed upon the discoveries in Waikaretu.

    4. Recover and Preserve all facts and findings of these New Zealand ancestors in a museum Past, present and future.

    5. Summond the release and return of "ALL" the skeletal remains that have been handed over to local iwi.

    6. Respect our rights as citizens and tax payers of New Zealand to know the truth and live as the democratic country we are ???

    7. Stop the denial and destruction of Ancient Celtic NZ.
    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/...nt-celtic.html

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/...ltic/sign.html

    http://www.kaimaiview.co.nz/articles...nz_history.htm

    http://www.kaimaiview.co.nz/who_were_the_first.htm

    http://www.kaimaiview.co.nz/the_stepping_stones.htm

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    Sounds like "certain people" want to keep the story of ancient White cultures in New Zealand a big secret. Guess it's not "politically correct".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Watson View Post
    Sounds like "certain people" want to keep the story of ancient White cultures in New Zealand a big secret. Guess it's not "politically correct".
    Friend, you have no idea. We are living in an apartheid state. These Maoris, that behave exactly the same as Negroes, call all the shots. They have their own schools, they get a reduction in academic standards and they get away with blue murder. We have extreme Maori radicals popping up, and they are beyond critique because they are dark. We have a guy called Hone Harawira (An ex convict who's real name is John Harris) that is the spitting image of Robert Mugabe. This mongrel is not worth a bean. But because we live in the age of PC he is paid over $100,000 a year to peddle his hate against White people.

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    to White guardian,
    i have read everything , but theres just not enough proof ... maybe , but if i was to take in everything you have wrote here as gospel , one could only presume that celts/vikings etc were here before the maoris arrived they DID breed with them .. only to realise the bad mistake that they made , killed them off , probably ate them ,and hoped that they had solved the "white skin , red haired problem "" only to have us land here in mass a few hundred years later and completely destroy a perfectly good country.
    what im getting at here , is that what does it matter ?? the maoris were here when able tasman and later cook arrived , there was no sign then of a celtic or viking race , the maori s DID control new zealand at that time , it was their's at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormpebbles View Post
    to White guardian,
    i have read everything , but theres just not enough proof ... maybe , but if i was to take in everything you have wrote here as gospel , one could only presume that celts/vikings etc were here before the maoris arrived they DID breed with them .. only to realise the bad mistake that they made , killed them off , probably ate them ,and hoped that they had solved the "white skin , red haired problem "" only to have us land here in mass a few hundred years later and completely destroy a perfectly good country.
    what im getting at here , is that what does it matter ?? the maoris were here when able tasman and later cook arrived , there was no sign then of a celtic or viking race , the maori s DID control new zealand at that time , it was their's at that time.
    And according to your logic.... now all that is irrelevant.

    Because New Zealand is WHITE now and it is controlled by "WHITE EMPIRES" at THIS TIME. That means it is OURS at this time and whatever might have been previously is of no consequence.


    I always wonder why when there is ample proof that white men once had control of a land and it was over run by non whites that it is no value or consequence but when "EVIL WHITE MAN" comes along a over runs a non white society then it is an unforgivable crime.

    Non whites have driven out and committed genocide upon whites for ages and the reason they use to justify it is because White Man brought technology to their heathen lands. Technology that not one of the dark races are willing to give up but in fact is the primary reason that they flock to white nations to live with white man. They want our goodies and deep inside they know it and hate themselves for it but they take out their own hatred for themselves on white people and try to pretend on one hand they would be better off if white man had never come while at the same time on the other hand they scrap, protest, and fight for hand-outs from white societies.

    Hypocritical NO?
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    hypocritical yes !!!
    because theres no proof that there were white skined people here liveing before the maoris , i read all of white gaurdians evidence but its still doesnt convince me ,, theres just far too much grey areas, references with 404 files not found etc ,
    quote from u ..
    Non whites have driven out and committed genocide upon whites for ages and the reason they use to justify it is because White Man brought technology to their heathen lands. Technology that not one of the dark races are willing to give up but in fact is the primary reason that they flock to white nations to live with white man. They want our goodies and deep inside they know it and hate themselves for it but they take out their own hatred for themselves on white people and try to pretend on one hand they would be better off if white man had never come while at the same time on the other hand they scrap, protest, and fight for hand-outs from white societies.

    we dont give them a choice , they have to comply with our ""white"" ways , try not paying tax and see what happens ..

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    years ago i knew a guy, not a maori , he was portugese i think ,he made his ""liveing" by building concrete water tanks , only owened a car , didnt earn any money as long as his food and the marteriels needed for building the tanks were paid for he was content with that , usually he lived with whoever he was building a tank for at the time or he lived out of his car ,, the problem with this is that he DIDNT pay tax , everyone in nz has to pay tax , in his case the courts worked it out on the minimum wage, but it didnt get paid this went on for years and years .. every year more court costs, interest on the money owed etc , this was a really nice guy , salt of the earth type of person .. he of course spent time in jail for this .. i dont know how long he spent inside, i was far too busy feathering my own nest to worry.
    the point here is THERES NO CHOICE for maoris not to be part of our collective global racist society.
    if u look at the situation globally its allways the dark skined people that are dying from starvation etc 99% of the time ..
    if i had black skin i would be really peeved with whites as well ,, theres enough food that we produce to feed everyone !!
    no one cares
    the maoris didnt flock here to our land , they were allready here,

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormpebbles View Post

    we dont give them a choice , they have to comply with our ""white"" ways ,
    "We don't give them a choice???" Well does that explain why the massive legal and illegal immigration form non whites to white nations all over the west?

    What can you possibly mean by "Not giving them a choice." We can't seem to keep them out. If they are going insist on being a part of our communities why should they NOT contribute?

    What kind of non white moron wants to leave the jungle and come get health care, food stamps, housing, and even wages paid for by white folks and has the idea that its' UNFAIR to expect them to contribute?

    What kind of white person supports that kind of sloth and makes untruthful excuses?
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    years ago i knew a guy, not a maori , he was portugese i think ,he made his ""liveing" by building concrete water tanks , only owened a car , didnt earn any money as long as his food and the marteriels needed for building the tanks were paid for he was content with that , usually he lived with whoever he was building a tank for at the time or he lived out of his car ,, the problem with this is that he DIDNT pay tax , everyone in nz has to pay tax , in his case the courts worked it out on the minimum wage, but it didnt get paid this went on for years and years .. every year more court costs, interest on the money owed etc , this was a really nice guy , salt of the earth type of person .. he of course spent time in jail for this .. i dont know how long he spent inside, i was far too busy feathering my own nest to worry.
    You do understand that Portugese are Europeans right? They are descendants from Portugal and Spain. Do you know how to read maps?


    the point here is THERES NO CHOICE for maoris not to be part of our collective global racist society.
    There is no choice for them if they want the goodies. No one stopping them from going back to their old jungle ways and living as savages off the wild and reservations.... It's just not to their taste anymore.


    if u look at the situation globally its allways the dark skined people that are dying from starvation etc 99% of the time ..
    if i had black skin i would be really peeved with whites as well ,, theres enough food that we produce to feed everyone !!
    Non whites live in mild climates in some of the most rich resource nations in the world. Why have they been living in third world style and starving for hundreds of years?

    Why do non whites living in rich nations need white people to "provide for them" and "feed" them like pets?

    If they are equal as they insist....they would build a society in their own nation that is as productive as white people.

    White people are only 8% of the world's population and declining. How long can 8% of the population sustain 92% of non whites sitting around in their own nation starving and waiting for someone else to dig a well and grow some greens for them? The White Race thrived in Northern Nations with few resources and a brutal climate... and they exceed all the the non white nations...why is that?

    if i had black skin i would be really peeved with whites as well ,, theres enough food that we produce to feed everyone !!
    Give me, give me, give me....... right? They are not responsible to feed themselves, build their own community or provide for their own children. WHITE MAN IS SUPPOSED TO GIVE THEM WHATEVER THEY WANT.

    As a white person.... which color of skin am I supposed to be angry at for not giving me what I want?

    Should I be peeved at black people for not building me a house and feeding my family for me?


    Dear Pebbles...

    Such an outlook suggests that non whites are not EQUAL to whites. Are you a white supremacist? So which is it? Are non whites merely animals that we need to provide for like pets? Or are they fantastic people capable of building a technological wonderland so abundant that 8% of the non whites world population can just feed the entire world?
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    Pebbles... you are being soooo racist. To suggest that non whites are not capable of feeding themselves.

    It's time for you to give them equal opportunity and allow them to build their own society without racist handouts from racist people like you who think they are not capable.

    So just knock it off with all the racist crap you are posting about blacks on our forum.
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