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    Post Arizona lost two important points of law in first round

    The judge today has shot down two of the points that were integral in protecting the United States from the Mexican invasion.

    One is that police officers now can not ask if one is illegal, two is that police officers can not demand papers from illegals.

    My concern is that if the Federal Government continues to remove legal remedies from the people who live in the border states and the Federal Government refuses to secure the border, then the people who live in these states will be forced to use other means for their own self defense.

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    The judge also delayed parts of the law that required immigrants to carry their papers at all times, and made it illegal for undocumented workers to solicit employment in public places. In addition, the judge blocked officers from making warrantless arrests of suspected illegal immigrants.

    L.A. City Council Has No Immediate Plans To Lift Economic Boycott Of Arizona - cbs2.com

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    If the system makes peaceful rebellion or peaceful demonstration impossible, they make the violent version inevitable.
    Problem is, I am of the opinion that this is exactly what they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Sidious View Post
    I am of the opinion that this is exactly what they want.
    What they want is to genocide Whites using practical politics and that means using any means under the rules, without breaking the rules.

    As no closed political system, has ever been brought down by violence, they are trying to provoke the minority of Awakened Whites, into a violent confrontation, so they can provide "the solution", with their guns, SWAT teams and soldiers.

    So keep up the pressure with the consistent message about White Genocide. It may not look like it right now, but all over the world Whites are winning and the Anglo Elites are having nightmares about the coming tribunals.

    Also you must keep in mind, that there is no "fairness" in this game. Both sides are playing to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danger2443 View Post
    What they want is to genocide Whites using practical politics and that means using any means under the rules, without breaking the rules.

    As no closed political system, has ever been brought down by violence, they are trying to provoke the minority of Awakened Whites, into a violent confrontation, so they can provide "the solution", with their guns, SWAT teams and soldiers.

    So keep up the pressure with the consistent message about White Genocide. It may not look like it right now, but all over the world Whites are winning and the Anglo Elites are having nightmares about the coming tribunals.

    Also you must keep in mind, that there is no "fairness" in this game. Both sides are playing to win.
    I think what you will find is that ''they'' are not stupid. The game being played is White v black v mexican v everyone else.
    All ''they'' do is sit back, wait while everyone fights each other, weakens the whole mass and then ''they'' come in and clean up.
    A very cunning plan, but what irritates the hell out of me is that it isn't new.
    ''They'' have done this many times and still the sheep go for it.

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    The scariest part about this ruling is that the Mexicans really think they have carte blanche now. As they say, The door is wide open...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fascist Next Door View Post
    The scariest part about this ruling is that the Mexicans really think they have carte blanche now. As they say, The door is wide open...
    There is definitely an agenda of some kind, if not many...

    1) an attempt to trigger a civil war and later have the UN take over, as Kissinger mentioned years ago

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    2) a merger/takeover of Mexico by America. Wall Street people are famous for misrepresenting takeovers. Remember the Chrysler "takeover" of Mercedes Benz? What nonsense. It was the other way around.

    3) keep people fighting amongst each other while the country is being looted. Without a doubt, this is taking place.

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    The few times that the will of the people is made into law, some BLACK-ROBED WHORE overturns the law.

    Every time the federal tyrants do something like this, they turn more White people against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Sidious View Post
    If the system makes peaceful rebellion or peaceful demonstration impossible, they make the violent version inevitable.
    Problem is, I am of the opinion that this is exactly what they want.
    The Jews are much better at suppressing rebellions (such as the Civil War or illegal activities by the Klan) than debating with folks like us.

    This is why the Jews always try to portray any pro-White movement or organization as violent. The Jews always want the majority to be fooled into thinking that the Feds not oppressing free speech or free association, but that there's something illegal that's being targeted.

    This is why our military has been in Iraq. Training in house-to-house fighting.

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    (Article reprinted with permission.)

    Federal Judge Blocks Will of the People: SB1070 on Hold

    A black-robed whore has denied Arizonans the right to round up illegal aliens.

    by James Buchanan

    Despite all the propaganda from the media, three quarters of Americans want illegal aliens deported. One recent article notes “Three-quarters of Americans want to see the number of illegal immigrants decreased and a substantial majority put more priority on stopping illegal immigration than they do in finding a path for immigrants to become legal residents, according to a CNN/Opinion Research poll conducted May 21-23. The 76 percent who say they want the population of illegals decreased is the highest figure in CNN polls dating back to June 2006… Sixty percent want the emphasis of the government to be on stopping illegals from entering the country and deporting those who are here…”



    With this kind of massive public support for enforcing immigration law, you might think new laws like Arizona’s SB 1070 would have little trouble. But the reality is that an army of militant liberals in the Democrat party and judicial positions are always poised to deny the will of the people whenever it doesn’t suit their agenda.

    A recent news article reports “a federal judge dealt a serious rebuke to Arizona’s toughest-in-the-nation immigration law. The judge put put most of the crackdown on hold just hours before it was to take effect. The ruling by U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton shifts the immigration debate to the courts and sets up a lengthy legal battle that may not be decided until the Supreme Court weighs in. Republican Gov. Jan Brewer said the state will likely appeal the ruling and seek to get the judge’s order overturned. But for now, opponents of the law have prevailed: The provisions that most angered opponents will not take effect, including sections that required officers to check a person’s immigration status while enforcing other laws.”

    The whole issue about Arizona’s immigration law SB1070 is whether the US will have ANY serious immigration enforcement or whether the minority of Americans, who want open borders get their way. Unfortunately, almost all Democrat politicians and a considerable percentage of alleged Republican politicians, secretly oppose ANY border enforcement.

    The Obama regime filed a lawsuit against Arizona’s immigration law demonstrating their contempt for the law and their desire to turn America into a Third World garbage heap, where Democrats will perpetually have a majority of the vote, which is all they care about.

    There was absolutely NO legitimate reason for this federal judge to rule against the Arizona immigration law. The heart of the law was a word-for-word copy of existing federal immigration law. All the professional liars running around claiming that the law is un-Constitutional or conflicts with federal law are in reality raging against the fact that a large majority of Americans favor deporting illegal aliens and the state of Arizona is trying to do something about this problem.

    There’s an old saying that “Justice delayed is justice denied”. Arizona passed SB 1070 because illegal aliens are bankrupting their state. Rather than ignore the problem and go bankrupt, like California is choosing to do, Arizona chose to tackle the illegal immigration problem and put into law a reasonable process of checking immigration papers at traffic stops and slowly rounding up the illegal aliens for deportation.

    In a way, it’s good that this battle is coming out right before the November elections. It should remind Americans that they need to vote the Democrats out of power if they want anything done about illegal immigration. Also, they need to vote liberal Republicans out of office so we don’t get pro-Amnesty traitors like George W. Bush or John McCain rising to the top of the party.
    Speaking of the devil, John McCain’s primary is coming up on August 24th. If anyone in Arizona wants to send a message that they want to stop illegal immigration, they should vote against McCain in the open primary. Feel free to support J.D. Hayworth, McCain’s rival, at his website here.

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    Winston Smith of the Political Cesspool on the decision...read it all, not just the quote.


    * It denies American citizens their right to express their will by the Constitutionally-protected act of legislation.

    * It has essentially enacted the will of people who are not citizens, and who, by being in this country illegally, have broken the laws enacted of the citizens.

    *It establishes minority rule, both racially and numerically.

    * It racially profiles every White police officer in the State of Arizona. Since anti-citizen forces have said the Arizona law is racial profiling, and since racial profiling is said to racist, and since only White people can be racists, then every White police officer is a racist. The hypocrisy of the racial profiling accusation is lost on those who spew it; White police officers can not profile suspected criminals, but White police officers can be racially profiled
    Winston Smith: The line has been drawn in Arizona | JAMES EDWARDS

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    This is shaping up to be an interesting battle between the Liberal
    Elites, and large sections of the Public, including most of White America.

    I put the Finger wagging traditional media in the camp of the Liberal elites.

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    Default Sheriff Joe Still Arresting Illegals

    Though a judge has temporarily blocked the immigration law from taking full effect, Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio is still doing his job. Furthermore, he is brilliantly doing it within the ridiculous boundaries set by the judge!

    Arpaio's crime sweeps tailored to stay within immigration laws

    TUCSON (KGUN9-TV) - He's known for his tough talk and taking tough action when it comes to enforcing illegal immigration. Sheriff Joe Arpaio did it again yesterday. He conducted a crime sweep that resulted in 22 arrests including three illegal immigrants.
    Sheriff Arpaio's sweep took place on the same day SB1070 became law despite a federal judge's ruling to block key parts from taking effect. Nine On Your Side wanted to know if his latest sweep violates the judge's order?
    Immigration Attorney John Messing sat down with us to watch our Nine On Your Side story showing deputies in action during Thursday's crime sweep. Messing says it does not appear as though Arpaio is violating the judge's order.
    Here's why? Sheriff Arpaio, while he invites the eyes of the world to witness his crime sweeps, his tough talk is geared to lead you to believe he's acting above federal authority.
    Before dispatching his deputies, Arpaio declared before the eyes of the media, "If we find any illegal aliens they're going to be arrested."
    But Arpaio's actions are tailored to avoid that conclusion. Messing is referring to a traffic stop seen in our story. Deputies pull over a suburban for expired tags. Once a lawful stop is made, the deputies then use their police powers to also investigate the driver for state crimes.
    These crimes can range from arrest warrants to illegal possession of a firearm. But making an arrest on a criminal violation is key for Arpaio's legal safety net.
    "If they're in his jail and the agreement with the federal government as I understand the status of it he has the authority to ask about their immigration status once they're booked in his jail which is exactly what he's talking about," said Messing.
    Therefore, Messing says Arpaio's sweeps are separate and apart from the federal judge's order and the issue surrounding SB1070 because Arpaio starts the action with a lawful traffic stop.
    However, Messing says Arpaio does cross the legal line when he parades an arrestee in front of the media. But, winning in court favors Arpaio and not an illegal immigrant.
    "The individuals who are stopped and detained may have private civil rights violations though it would take a long time to resolve in the courts they're not easy proceedings," said Messing.
    Whether Arpaio stays within the law and the judge's order remains to be seen.
    Nine On Your Side called the U.S. Attorney's office to ask if they plan to pursue charges of contempt against Arpaio but did not receive a returned phone call by close of business.
    Still, other questions remain: Is Arpaio conducting these traffic violation stops to make criminal arrests for the purpose of enforcing immigration laws on his own?
    If the feds can prove "yes," that's when Arpaio could face trouble.
    Right now, the American Civil Liberties Union or ACLU has two pending lawsuits filed against Arpaio.
    The Department of Justice is also currently investigating Arpaio for civil rights violations. These lawsuits have been pending for several years now. Still, there's no word yet on when action will be taken, if at all.

    Arpaio's crime sweeps tailored to stay within immigration laws - KGUN 9 On Your Side, Tucson News, Weather & Sports

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