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    One of the most enduring legends of Roman Britain concerns the disappearance of the Ninth Legion.
    The theory that 5,000 of Rome's finest soldiers were lost in the swirling mists of Caledonia, as they marched north to put down a rebellion, forms the basis of a new film, The Eagle, but how much of it is true?
    The anonymously authored Augustan History, compiled in the 3rd Century, provides further detail, noting that when Hadrian became emperor, "the Britons could not be kept under Roman control".
    The British problem was of deep concern to Roman central government. Thanks to a tombstone recovered from Ferentinum in Italy, we know that emergency reinforcements of over 3,000 men were rushed to the island on "the British Expedition", early in Hadrian's reign. The emperor himself visited the island in AD 122, in order to "correct many faults", bringing with him a new legion, the Sixth.
    The fact that they took up residence in the legionary fortress of York suggests that the "great losses" of personnel, alluded to by Fronto, had occurred within the ranks of the Ninth.
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    “History has shown us that the civilisations that cannot biologically be maintained, will disappear”—Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán.>>













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    Britain in the time of Hadrian 117-138 AD practiced the Druid ideology. This sanguinary system was said to have originated in Britain, whence it was introduced into Gaul. It’s principal doctrines were the immortality and transmigration of the souls; it’s chief maxims— to worship the gods , to do no evil, and to behave heroically. To appease , by cruel rites, their offended deities, huge images of wickerwork were filled with human victims, who were burned alive, and from their quivering limbs the priest predicted future events. The mistletoe , wherever it was found upon the oak , itself a sacred tree , was cut with great ceremony, and used as a charm to cause fecundity or to counteract poison. The Druidical order was divided into three classes: 1 The Druids, who were their dignitaries; 2 The Bards, poets or musicians,; and 3 the Ouates, the lowest rank of sacrificers and diviners. Of their monuments are few remaining, unless we consider as such the remarkable ruins of Stonehenge and Abury.

    During the reign of (H)Adrian was in many respects unequal to his great predecessor. Relinquishing the conquests of Trajan, he wisely reduced the empire to the limitations sanctioned by the wisdom of Augustus— to the barriers formed by the Euphrates, the Danube , the Rhine , and the ocean. He travelled through all his dominions to investigate and remedy more promptly the disorders which prevailed. He settled a colony at Jerusalem, rebuilt the walls of the city, and called it Aelia Capitolina. Many useful reforms were introduced by him; the annual laws of the praetors were replaced by a perpetual edict , so that the principles of the administration of justice no longer varied with each years. The condition of the slaves was also greatly ameliorated ; their masters were no longer allowed to exercise an absolute power of life and death over them, and the private prisons were closed. An insurrection , which broke out under the impostor Barchochebas, who announced that he was the Messiah , was, after two years , extinguished in the blood of many thousands of Jews in 135 AD. The latter of Adrians reign was darkened by the murder of persons suspected of conspiring against him, and he died of a lingering disease, repeating Plato’s well-known lines on the nature of the soul.

    As for the Ninth Legion?

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    I was reading about Scotland during the Roman era. When I was growing up the Picts were portrayed as a bunch of raiding Barbarians and the Romans built Hadrian's Wall to keep Them out. Of course History was wrtitten by the Romans. And, it seems that the Picts were much more Militarily capable than previously thought. Apparently, there were several military campaigns against the Picts that did not go well for the Romans, and the Romans took allot of losses. As well, i learned Hadrians wall was the most heavily fortified part of the Roman Empire. I suspect that the Picts were aware of what happened to Their fellow Britons to the South like the Iceni (Boudica). I suppose it is something to be proud of if You have ancestors from that part of the World.

    The Movie about the Picts and Romans is called "Centurion".

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    Yes all white history is a proud event.
    Here is a link on one of the Britain leaders who opposed Rome.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caratacus

    In a strategic move to subdue the Gauls in the years 55 and 54 BC , Julius Caesar invaded this Island , but his two campaigns were indecisive, and the country maintained its independence until AD 43, when the Emperor Claudius , pursuing the same strategy, in person , and afterwards the generals Plautius and Vespasian , compelled various tribes to acknowledge the majesty of Rome.
    The last of these commanders fought 30 battles before he could subdue the inhabitants,and Caractacus opposed Plautius during five years with varying success. This brave chief of the Silures being without allies, his Army was at last defeated with great slaughter , and he himself taken prisoner and carried to Rome. Suetonius endeavored to destroy the Druids , and their influence in Gaul, who had taken refuge in the Isle of Anglesey , and quelled a formidable insurrection headed by the celebrated Boadicea, AD 61, which cost the lives of 150,000 men. In the course of seven years 78— 85 , the power of the empire was firmly established by Agricola; he subdued the natives as far north as the Forth, and also defeated Galgacus and his Caledonians at the foot of their native Grampians. Rutulius has said, with equal beauty and truth , that Rome embraced the whole world in her legislative triumphs , causing all to live under a common bond; that she blended discordant nations into one; and that , by offering to the conquered a full companionship in her privileges , she made the earth one united city. With these principles Agricola endeavored to civilize the island, by inspiring the ‘barbarians’ with a love of letters, and by the introduction of the Roman dress , language, and luxurious manners. Four Legions were stationed in britain, and as many great roads facilitated the communication between distant points.
    The most ancient inhabitants of the country appear to have been the Cymry, from whom the Welsh are descended; and these were followed by colonies of Celts from Gaul, being themselves, like the first settlers, of cimmerian origin. But not by rude immigrants alone was the island visited, for Phoenicians, and after them Carthaginians , frequented its south-western shores in search of tin.

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    I admire anyone Who stood up to the Romans and the unbelievably formidable Military machine They had, even the Jews, Who defied Rome during the Jewish Revolts. Apparently, a Million People or so were killed in some of the Jewish Revolts. There were three of Them. One of them occured during around the same time as Boudica's revolt or AD 71. The Romans were Brutal, and they used to Crucify 500 People a Day. So if the Romans were forced out of Scotland then that was a good thing.

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    It is worth noting that Rome was founded in 753BC, lasting until a conversion to Christianity evolved into the Byzantine empire, century after century of Romans . During the era of Romes founding, the Jews had been sent into exile by the Persian King , into a diaspora. For reason going back to ancient Egypt between never ending conflicts of Indo-europeans , the Semites and there allied Negro’s. That during the times of the Roman power in Judaea the jews were not exiled nor persecuted as others had done to them before Roman occupation. The Jews, afteral during this age, broke Roman laws, thus becoming criminals outlaws, to be dealt with. In fact, During the Siege of Jerusalem it was Jewish internal fighting among the Jews own political parties that had lead to a bloody internal conflict, thus a Roman siege was forced by the authorities in Rome, as the jews were dealt with like all rebels.. Harshly. It is true that during these later dates in Roman history that many did suffer persecution , there were many none noble persons in Roman society as had existed over the rest of the world, the world was still a warriors world.. Did you know that during the Age of Augustus two thirds of the Jewish population— choose– to live within the Provinces of the Roman Empire.
    Britain in her defiance in many respects actually aided the destruction of advancing civilization itself, by defeating the Roman occupation. What I mean is ; if Britain had been fully Romanized , and militarily in the Roman camp, than the barbarian invasions that so weakened Roman civilization, would have never been as successful in depleting the advancement of law, order and humanity to man. Britain only delayed what they needed most... Civilization.
    You’re idea of 500 being crucified daily is but a tiny window in Roman history, even though it is very sad. In fact in one day alone, the Parthians murdered 30, 000 Romans, .....men, women and children even as they slept.

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    I personally believe that the Jews had allot to do with the downfall of the Roman Empire. I have never actually researched the subject, but I understand Jews were prevalent all over the Roman Empire.

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    I don't think the Jews ever stood a chance against the Romans.
    But with all the others who were warring with the Romans the army took a beating...
    I'm would guess that they had a difficult time replacing the men while fighting and spreading them out all over.
    They were spread to thin to control the Picts or Northern Scotland.

    List of Roman battles

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    It wasn't a matter of the Jews standing a chance against the Romans militarilly, but of poisoning Roman society from within, much like they're doing in white nations today.

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    I see what your saying.
    Jews did that to Judaea but it seems this was something new for them.
    John Hyrcanus brought Jews in and converted these people to the Hebrew religion which was a huge error and violated a direct command of God.

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