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    Default Marine Le Pen has Presented a More Acceptable Face for the Front National

    Jon Henley is travelling through France to hear stories in the runup to the elections. In Carpentras, he talks to some of the people who delivered the far right's highest vote in the first round


    Marine Le Pen at a Front National parade in Paris on May Day. Photographer France Keyser explains her appeal: 'She's slim, she's in jeans, high heels – she channels a totally different mood.' Photograph: Christophe Calais/Corbi

    A photographer called France Keyser from Marseille pointed me in the direction of Carpentras. She has spent the past two years working on a photographic record of the Front National in the south of France, attending meetings, going on rallies, speaking to activists. You can see a selection of her pictures here.
    Unfortunately (if unsurprisingly), on May Day the place was practically deserted. It's a small, pretty and very old town not far from Avignon with around 30,000 inhabitants, and in one of the traditional Front National heartlands it distinguished itself during the first round of the presidential elections on 22 April by delivering Marine Le Pen's highest vote: 31.5%, more even than she managed in her home base in the Pas de Calais.

    Marion Le Pen, Marine's niece and Jean-Marie's granddaughter, will be standing here in June's parliamentary elections. A law student in Paris, she must stand a very good chance of being one of the first FN MPs since the 1980s (in the 1986 general elections, the FN won 35 seats in the national assembly).

    However, the streets of Carpentras were all but empty. I spoke to a handful of locals, one of them a librarian who said she had voted for the radical left firebrand Jean-Luc Mélenchon and two who voted Socialist. Another two voted for Sarkozy, and three said they'd voted for Marine Le Pen. None wanted their full names noted nor their photos taken, each gave a different reason for their choice and each planned to vote differently on Sunday.

    Renaud, an insurance agent in his 40s, said Marine was "the only one talking sense on Europe. We're being dictated to by Brussels and the European bank. Why should we be paying for Greece and Portugal? We need to pull out as soon as we can. The euro's a disaster; everything's more expensive, everybody's standard of living has gone down." He said he would vote Sarkozy, "because Hollande will ruin us economically".

    Anne-Laure, 34, works part-time in a supermarket and said she had voted FN for the first time. "I had trouble with her father," she said. "He was always too outspoken; too brutal. Marine smiles, she talks sense, she doesn't make outrageous comments. She wants to strengthen the family, help parents, do more for respect and discipline." She thought she would vote Hollande, "because I just can't bear Sarkozy. He's like a spoiled child."

    Only one mentioned immigration. Pierre-Andre, 48, a delivery driver, said the FN had changed. It no longer wanted to "send people home," he said, "but we have to stop more coming, and stop those who are here living off benefits, getting preferential treatment. I agree. You should have to work for benefits; you should have to adopt certain principles to become French. And those kids of immigrants who spit on France … Zero tolerance." He wasn't sure whether he would vote Sarkozy, or spoil his ballot, or simply not bother.

    'Marine Le Pen has presented a more acceptable face for the Front National' | World news | guardian.co.uk


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    Default Re: Marine Le Pen has Presented a More Acceptable Face for the Front National

    Farid Smahi vient mendier son retour au FN

    A Paris, un banni du FN parmi les militants



    Farid Smahi était discrètement présent dans la foule venue écouter Marine Le Pen ce 1er mai. Longtemps perçu comme « la caution beur » du FN, il n’a plus sa carte aujourd’hui.


    « Je suis ici incognito », confie Farid Smahi, qui a rejoint le Front national en 1998, avant d’en devenir un élu (conseiller régional d’Ile-de-France) et un dirigeant, en tant que membre du bureau politique.

    Apprenant lors du Congrès de Tours qui vit le sacre de Marine Le Pen, le 16 mars 2011, qu’il n’était pas reconduit au bureau politique, Smahi avait quitté le palais des Congrès avec fracas, en lançant à la horde de journalistes qui le suivait: « J’en ai marre d’être le bougnoule de service. »

    « A l’époque, j’ai pété les plombs », explique-t-il ce mardi alors que Marine Le Pen annonce au public qu’elle votera blanc au second tour. Depuis, Farid Smahi raconte avoir conservé de bonnes relation avec Louis Aliot, Jany et Jean-Marie Le Pen.

    Mais pas « Marine »: « Le musulman que je suis lui demande un peu de charité chrétienne. A elle de décider si je peux revenir.

    Contrairement à la présidente du FN, Farid Smahi ne votera pas blanc, dimanche, mais Nicolas Sarkozy: « Pour l’avenir de la France, l’expérience, ça n’a pas de prix. Je ne peux pas voter pour un président de conseil général..

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    Courrier International, 2 mai 2012:


    Le quotidien israélien Ha’Aretz se penche sur le cas de Juifs qui ont voté Marine Le Pen le 22 avril, oublieux de l’histoire du Front national. Pour eux, qui restent minoritaires, le parti d’extrême droite est le plus à même de les défendre – face à l’islam, en particulier.




    Il y a quelques années, Michel Thooris (Exhibi sionisme au FN),un ancien officier de police, travaillait encore pour le Crif,l’organisation faîtière des communautés juives de France, et l’aidait dans ses actions de riposte contre l’antisémitisme.

    Aujourd’hui, il est en lice pour siéger à l’Assemblée nationale française sous les couleurs du Front national (dans la huitième circonscription des Français de l’étranger) et il ne voit pas de contradiction entre l’un et l’autre de ses engagements.
    [...]
    “Ne comptez pas sur moi pour vous expliquer ce qui se dit parmi les dirigeants du Crif, mais ce que je pense, c’est qu’il est naturel de se tourner vers Marine Le Pen quand on est juif. Elle lutte contre la criminalité et contre l’islam, ce qui signifie qu’elle défend les Juifs”, explique Michel Thooris à Ha’Aretz.

    Il n’y a pas si longtemps, la communauté juive, sans exception aucune, condamnait les partisans de Le Pen comme Jean-Richard Sulzer (Aux sources du Front national-sioniste), membre de l’équipe de campagne de Marine Le Pen, qui a longtemps travaillé pour le compte de la famille Le Pen. “C’était un professeur respecté, mais quand il a choisi Le Pen, sa femme l’a quitté”,
    [...]
    “L’attitude de nos gens a changé tout simplement parce que le Front national a changé”, affirme Michel Thooris. “Marine Le Pen a exprimé l’horreur que lui inspirait la Shoahet les Juifs le savent.”

    Un autre partisan de Le Pen, Michel Ciardi, qui a créé un groupe de soutien, explique cependant que sa famille refuse de la soutenir. “Mes enfants me disent qu’ils ne partagent pas mes vues, mais je ne partage pas davantage les leurs”, assène Ciardi. Son groupe de soutien s’appelle l’Union des Français juifs (Une coquille vide pour la dédiabolisation)
    [...]
    “J’ai fondé l’UFJ il y a maintenant six mois, après avoir rencontré Marine Le Pen, explique Michel Ciardi. J’avais été invité à dîner en sa compagnie chez une connaissance juive et elle m’a fortement impressionné.

    Elle m’a expliqué qu’il était important que nous fassions partie, en tant que Juifs, du Front national. Les Juifs qui ont décidé de soutenir Le Pen montrent aux racistes qui militent au Front national qu’ils doivent désormais s’y faire.”
    D’après Ciardi, son association, soutenue activement par l’organisation pro-Le Pen Riposte laïque, compterait 150 membres, mais le journaliste juif Michel Zerbib, qui étudie l’UFJ depuis ses débuts, prétend que ce n’est qu’une “coquille vide”. “J’ai beau chercher les membres de cette UFJ, je n’y ai trouvé personne. Je reste convaincu qu’il ne s’agit que d’une initiative individuelle”, explique Zerbib, qui affirme que peu de Juifs ont voté pour Marine Le Pen. “Certes, je n’ai pas été si surpris de voir que 7 à 8 % des électeurs juifs français avaient voté pour elle [selon des évaluations internes à la communauté juive], mais cela reste trois fois moins que la moyenne nationale.” [...] il ressort de nos enquêtes que, dans les ‘quartiers juifs’, on a nettement moins voté en faveur de Le Pen qu’ailleurs en France”, conclut Zerbib, lequel rappelle, à toutes fins utiles, que sa station de radio [Radio J], a toujours refusé d’inviter Marine Le Pen.

    De son côté, même si les chiffres exacts restent difficiles à évaluer, Michel Thooris admet que de nombreux Juifs restent rebutés par le parti d’extrême droite. “Ce que nous rappelons sans cesse, c’est que nous roulons pour Marine Le Pen, pas pour le Front national. C’est la seule manière de gagner des voix juives qui, sans cela, ne nous seront jamais acquises.” [...]


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    I don't read French, RV, but it seems like you wouldn't be an FN voter due to people who aren't white supporting the FN. So who is a better option to vote for? And by better, I mean who is pro-White and has even a decent chance of getting elected?


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    Quote Originally Posted by William Gayley Simpson View Post
    I don't read French, RV, but it seems like you wouldn't be an FN voter due to people who aren't white supporting the FN. So who is a better option to vote for? And by better, I mean who is pro-White and has even a decent chance of getting elected?
    In the USA, You have two choices : Republicans or Democrats!

    In France, You have two choices TOO! UMP (the "right"...) or PS (the "left"...) But they are two same faces of the same "coin"!

    Others like FN, Green, Communists ... are just for the "show" called "elections"

    In France, no real white nationalist party will ever win!

    You must use the elections for to spray your message BUT without compromises!

    Look at the photo I posted ( Marine Le Pen and her support committee ( two BLACKS and a FREE MASON )!

    http://www.whitenewsnow.com/french-w...tml#post124960

    And what was the result: She was not elected!

    Only 17,90% ...

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    No offense meant to you, French brother, but that sort of extremist, "all or nothing" mentality is what leads to continued failure. Like it or not, politics requires compromise for any sort of progress.

    What if the UMP collapses and the FN can steal some of UMP's support? Maybe they will win some seats in the French legislature. Maybe they will reach more French youth with a pro-White message. Maybe they will win more city council seats and other local government offices. Those are all great things that build for the future.

    Just because Le Pen did not win the French Presidency, does not mean the FN has failed. We have to look farther than 2012!

    As long as the real leadership of the FN is solidly pro White, we shouldn't care about a few token blacks put on stage.

    And by the way, the French political system is still much more open to third parties than the US political system. A third party can get almost 20% of the vote in France. Our third parties almost never get more than 2%.


    Quote Originally Posted by Robertvincent View Post
    In the USA, You have two choices : Republicans or Democrats!

    In France, You have two choices TOO! UMP (the "right"...) or PS (the "left"...) But they are two same faces of the same "coin"!

    Others like FN, Green, Communists ... are just for the "show" called "elections"

    In France, no real white nationalist party will ever win!

    You must use the elections for to spray your message BUT without compromises!

    Look at the photo I posted ( Marine Le Pen and her support committee ( two BLACKS and a FREE MASON )!

    http://www.whitenewsnow.com/french-w...tml#post124960

    And what was the result: She was not elected!

    Only 17,90% ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by William Gayley Simpson View Post
    No offense meant to you, French brother, but that sort of extremist, "all or nothing" mentality is what leads to continued failure. Like it or not, politics requires compromise for any sort of progress.
    There are already jews, blacks, arabs, asians, freemassons ... in the FN

    What do you want to put more?

    Quote Originally Posted by William Gayley Simpson View Post
    What if the UMP collapses and the FN can steal some of UMP's support? Maybe they will win some seats in the French legislature. Maybe they will reach more French youth with a pro-White message. Maybe they will win more city council seats and other local government offices. Those are all great things that build for the future.
    UMP collapses? Why? This movement will not disapear because Sarkozy looses the election.

    FN will be always the: "F like FASCIST, N like NAZI", this movement is like a "scarecrow" ...

    A council seat or two or three ... and so what!

    The FN exists than more 30 years and not one or more mayors!!! after 30 years!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by William Gayley Simpson View Post
    Just because Le Pen did not win the French Presidency, does not mean the FN has failed. We have to look farther than 2012!
    The time is against us! more and more NON-WHITES in FRANCE and they have the right to vote!

    Quote Originally Posted by William Gayley Simpson View Post
    As long as the real leadership of the FN is solidly pro White, we shouldn't care about a few token blacks put on stage.
    I think, you have a fake vision about the FN and Marine Le Pen.

    Quote Originally Posted by William Gayley Simpson View Post
    And by the way, the French political system is still much more open to third parties than the US political system. A third party can get almost 20% of the vote in France. Our third parties almost never get more than 2%.
    The FN only had 17,90%!

    How many people who voted for the FN voted for socialist in the second tour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robertvincent View Post
    There are already jews, blacks, arabs, asians, freemassons ... in the FN

    What do you want to put more?



    UMP collapses? Why? This movement will not disapear because Sarkozy looses the election.

    FN will be always the: "F like FASCIST, N like NAZI", this movement is like a "scarecrow" ...

    A council seat or two or three ... and so what!

    The FN exists than more 30 years and not one or more mayors!!! after 30 years!!!



    The time is against us! more and more NON-WHITES in FRANCE and they have the right to vote!



    I think, you have a fake vision about the FN and Marine Le Pen.



    The FN only had 17,90%!

    How many people who voted for the FN voted for socialist in the second tour?

    Only 17.9%! That's at least 15% more than any third party in the US.

    Give Marine a chance to win some local elections before you pass judgement. The important thing is that she is taking an electable approach to politics. We can be "hard core" in our private beliefs, but we have to advocate sensible and appealing policies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by William Gayley Simpson View Post

    Give Marine a chance to win some local elections before you pass judgement. The important thing is that she is taking an electable approach to politics. We can be "hard core" in our private beliefs, but we have to advocate sensible and appealing policies.
    Why must I give her a chance?

    She's NOT a WN!

    She's OPENLY for diversity in the FN!

    Are jews, blacks, arabs, asians, freemasons FORBIDDEN in the FN? the answer is NO!

    I repeat AGAIN! you have a fake vision of Marine Le PEN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robertvincent View Post
    Why must I give her a chance?

    She's NOT a WN!

    She's OPENLY for diversity in the FN!

    Are jews, blacks, arabs, asians, freemasons FORBIDDEN in the FN? the answer is NO!

    I repeat AGAIN! you have a fake vision of Marine Le PEN!
    The recent elections in the UK show us the value of compromise. BNP got 2.1% in London. They are a mere shadow of their former selves. Selling out pays nothing. We must maintain our values, at all costs.

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    Do French laws even allow a political party to exclude non Whites? They don't in the UK, and I'm almost certain a US political party would get hit with a serious lawsuit if it excluded non Whites.

    My vision of Marine Le Pen is one of a dedicated, but also practical, politician who loves her French people and will do whatever it takes to turn back decades of multiculturalism, send illegal immigrants home, fend off the banksters, and redefine France's role in the EU.

    Was her father better or worse?


    Quote Originally Posted by Robertvincent View Post
    Why must I give her a chance?

    She's NOT a WN!

    She's OPENLY for diversity in the FN!

    Are jews, blacks, arabs, asians, freemasons FORBIDDEN in the FN? the answer is NO!

    I repeat AGAIN! you have a fake vision of Marine Le PEN!


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    Quote Originally Posted by William Gayley Simpson View Post
    Was her father better or worse?
    Far, far better.

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    I think time will tell. If Marine wins some seats in parliament and some local elections, you may change your opinion - assuming those elected officials push for pro-White policies.

    Jean Marie didn't have much electoral success for all his decades in politics. He took a "harder line," but what difference does it make if he didn't realize any change?


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    Far, far better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by William Gayley Simpson View Post
    I think time will tell. If Marine wins some seats in parliament and some local elections, you may change your opinion - assuming those elected officials push for pro-White policies.

    Jean Marie didn't have much electoral success for all his decades in politics. He took a "harder line," but what difference does it make if he didn't realize any change?
    I backed Griffin's BNP as much as possible, but what did we see? We saw your policies implemented. Sell out after sell out. The party has been eroded to the point of being irrelevant. The value of subterfuge is profound, but when fantasy becomes reality we find ourselves standing around with dopey looks on our faces. The friendly BNP is done and dusted, they are finished. Let us take a look at Greece and the Golden Dawn. Put the black shirt on and get out there! That is the key in these trying times. White might.

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    No offense meant to you, French brother, but that sort of extremist, "all or nothing" mentality is what leads to continued failure. Like it or not, politics requires compromise for any sort of progress.
    You cannot work within the system. The system is designed to prevent change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Gayley Simpson View Post
    My vision of Marine Le Pen is one of a dedicated, but also practical, politician who loves her French people and will do whatever it takes to turn back decades of multiculturalism, send illegal immigrants home, fend off the banksters, and redefine France's role in the EU.
    What you don't understand is simple:

    She doesn't fight for WHITE peoples only but for ALL PEOPLES in France!

    For Marine Le Pen, a FRENCH, can be White, black, arab, asian, jew ...

    That's a BIG difference with a real WN movement!


    Quote Originally Posted by William Gayley Simpson View Post
    I think time will tell. If Marine wins some seats in parliament and some local elections, you may change your opinion - assuming those elected officials push for pro-White policies.

    PRO-WHITES policies ... with the socialist Hollande as president ... come on!

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    All I can say is that the BNP did not go into decline due to the sensible, attractive approach taken by the leadership in their media and election campaigns. From everything I have heard, the decline came about due to personal conflicts and the party activists' issues with some people's leadership style. Ironically for some of the nationalists who seem drawn to dictatorial leaders and regimes of the past and present, a dictatorial leadership has been cited as one of the major reasons for the demise of the party.

    I have been watching the developments in Greece, especially Golden Dawn's success. Their militant, community-oriented approach may provide us some lessons to learn from, but it will take a very drastic change from the current political and security situation in most of our White countries before their populations would embrace a militant party or organization. We should be copying Golden Dawn's community-oriented approach, but not the militancy. Greece is currently much less stable than other White countries. When the state (especially in a very socialized society) makes massive welfare cuts, reduces government services, and fails to provide basic security in the streets (AND people are too poor to relocate), people will turn to anyone who can provide stability and "benefits."

    That said, many of our White nations could see a drastic change very quickly - if the Euro or the dollar were to collapse and Weimar-style inflation ensued.

    The BNP was connecting with the people, providing services, getting things done for community, and spreading a common sense message. Internal conflict and poor internal leadership eroded its success. But the key commonality between a once successful BNP and a now successful Golden Dawn is the connection they made with the voters on a personal level. I know almost nothing about Golden Dawn's leadership, but it's likely that it is responsive to its core activists and local units. Hopefully it is on a solid foundation that can support its growth into a new larger, politically-represented, and politically-competent organization



    Quote Originally Posted by INVIKTUS View Post
    I backed Griffin's BNP as much as possible, but what did we see? We saw your policies implemented. Sell out after sell out. The party has been eroded to the point of being irrelevant. The value of subterfuge is profound, but when fantasy becomes reality we find ourselves standing around with dopey looks on our faces. The friendly BNP is done and dusted, they are finished. Let us take a look at Greece and the Golden Dawn. Put the black shirt on and get out there! That is the key in these trying times. White might.


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