The 9/11 Truth Movement

Jamie Kelso · 02-20-2009

Satellite Views That Help Explain 9/11

I made these graphics to help show visually why the official explanation of WTC 7's magical collapse is so implausible. Why is the 9/11 Truther movement relevant to the Ron Paul Revolution? Because the two groups almost totally overlap in membership. I can assure you that almost all of the 9/11 Truthers are also Ron Paul Revolutionaries. And a huge percentage of Ron Paul Revolutionaries are either 9/11 Truthers or incipient 9/11 Truthers. Ron Paul himself has made the tactical choice not to take on the 9/11 Truth issue as one of his campaign issues. Every good candidate has to pick his issues and stay focused on only those issues. But, be that as it may, you'll find that Ron's army is very interested in the 9/11 Truth movement. One of the reasons that this very numerically important 9/11 Truth constituency of Dr. Paul's supports him is that Dr. Paul is the only presidential candidate who will order a truthful investigation of 9/11. Believe it or not, there has not yet been any comprehensive investigation of the events of 9/11!!

Key to WTC Satellite View - Graphic by Jamie Kelso

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Jamie Kelso · 02-20-2009

The 9/11 Truth Movement -
Demanding The FIRST Real Investigation Into
What Happened

Photo by CAL

Here's a thread in which folks concerned with 9/11 Truth can post evidence that, as we Truthers like to say: "9/11 was an inside job."

By "inside job", what the 9/11 Truthers are alleging is that an "inside job" occurred, in which much, much more than the 2 planes that hit two towers, WTC 1 (North) and WTC 2 (South) caused the free-fall collapse of three towers on Sept. 11, 2001.

The most common conviction among 9/11 Truthers (including this 9/11 Truther) is that at least WTC 7 (the third tower to fall, 7 hours after WTC 1 and 2) was brought down by the use of prepositioned explosives and incendiaries that are the standard tools of what is called controlled demolition.

What turned me into a "9/11 Truther"? One thing above all - top engineers, scientists, and architects putting their reputations on the line. The statements by many of the most highly respected engineers, scientists, and architects in the world that they are "certain WTC 7 was a controlled demolition" is one of the most revolutionary events in recent years. The revolutionary potential inherent in a demonstration that people like WTC owner and leaseholder Larry Silverstein were complicit in the deliberate destruction of the World Trade Center is incalculable. If proven, this allegation is of mind-boggling volcanic fury that could be unleashed in our people.

After hearing these engineers, scientists, and architects online and in person, what's persuasive to this layman is their use of the adjective "certain." Engineers, scientists, and architects don't fling this word around about their own profession in a cavalier way.

Especially when they are putting their reputations on the line...big time. These aren't amateurs. These also aren't people like you and I who want to believe that insiders, many of them Jews, could be shown to be responsible for the worst catastrophe in American history. These professionals are working only from their professional judgment, not from the sort of political bias that we White Nationalists have.

If we put out these views, they would not be believed. When disinterested professionals put out these views...they are believed. The best we can do is to quote them to our kinsmen. That's what you'll see happening in this thread. No Amateur Hour engineering from us non-professionals who aren't qualified to pronounce on the matters at hand.

What's the best website for 9/11 Truth engineering facts? Probably the one founded by Richard Gage, A.I.A., where almost 200 professionals give their evidence: www.ae911truth.org. The ae stands for Architects and Engineeers for 9/11 Truth.

Here's one of the extremely good and persuasive videos by the world's top professionals, in this case Richard Gage, A.I.A. (American Institute of Architects):

YouTube - 9/11 Revisited - Richard Gage, AIA Architect - Part 1

YouTube - 9/11 Revisited - Richard Gage, AIA Architect - Part 2

Here's one of the hundreds of videos now circulating, featuring a top engineer, this one trained and working at M.I.T., Jeff King.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5HTp9QwFLI
There will be MANY more of these videos as this thread proceeds. It's FACTS and SCIENCE from these professionals that will unleash the volcano we are sitting on. Our Amateur Hour theories and invective-laden verbiage won't unleash the volcano. The way to make this thread effective is to bring in great videos like these from qualified professionals. We need the volcano of our kinsmen to blow. The 9/11 lies can, in my opinion, cause Mt. Whiteman to explode.

Digital Jedi · 02-26-2009

Can you post more 911 information? These are very interesting posts. tyvm

DJ

Jamie Kelso · 02-27-2009

Mandarin Oriental Hotel Fire PROVES
Once Again That Steel Skyscrapers CANNOT Collapse From Fire

The article below appears at the outstanding patriot truth website, www.ae911truth.org. I met the founder and director of ae911truth.org, Richard Gage, at the Sept. 9-12, 2007 9/11 Truth rallies in New York City. He points out in this article that the towering inferno fire that completely engulfed EVERY square inch of the Mandarin Oriental Hotel proves totally conclusively that steel skyscrapers CANNOT be made to collapse from fire. In fact, the Mandarin Oriental Hotel was declared "undamaged" by the engineers the day after the fire. And the Mandarin Oriental Hotel announced that its plans to move into the almost-completed skyscraper are going ahead unchanged! The steel from which skyscrapers are built is immensely stronger than the steel with which your barbeque is constructed. And it is just as impossible to MELT (or soften) the steel of a skyscraper with burning office materials as it is to melt or bend your barbeque after you've poured on the lighter fluid, briquets, and propane! When was the last time that you had to curse melted steel flavor in your steaks?!

Quote:

Feb 21, 2009

Mandarin Oriental Hotel compared to WTC 7 — Dramatic Differences

Mandarin Oriental Hotel fire, February 9, 2009,
during and after the fire.

With the fiery inferno of the Mandarin Oriental Hotel (MOH) in Beijing on February 9, 2009, the obvious point of comparison is with World Trade Center 7 (WTC 7) on September 11, 2001. Yes, the buildings were very similar in size, and in some ways in construction. Their heights were comparable, 522 ft. for MOH, vs. 610 ft. for WTC 7. But the differences in the magnitude of the fires and ultimate results were dramatic, in the extreme.
Fires in the MOH raged on every floor, reportedly requiring between 13 and 30 minutes before the entire building was engulfed in flame (first photo). In contrast, WTC 7 had small fires on only a few floors at a time, typically burning the office materials, then moving on. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) reported fires on only 10 floors.
With the MOH engulfed by more extensive fires, the dramatic differences in eventual outcomes for the two buildings are even more astounding. Once the fires were out, the MOH remained standing (second photo). This is not at all surprising, since all previous steel-framed high rises have remained standing (other than WTC 7, says NIST) after having been engulfed by fire. WTC 7, on the other hand, was demolished, falling straight down into its own footprint, with only the smallest of office fires in comparison to the MOH fires. Remarkably, NIST finally acknowledges a 2-second freefall drop extending approximately 8 stories.
Researchers at AE911Truth are very interested in making more detailed comparisons between these two buildings, the fires, and the aftermaths. Check back for the latest information.

Jamie Kelso · 03-21-2009

YouTube - WTC7: NIST Finally Admits Freefall (Part I)

YouTube - WTC7: NIST Finally Admits Freefall (Part II)

YouTube - WTC7: Nist Finally Admits Freefall (Part III)

Jamie Kelso · 04-14-2009

YouTube - American 77 Final Maneuver

I have talked with Captain Russ Wittenburg, one of the founders of this website http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_Fo...p?showtopic=16. Russ Wittenberg at one time piloted BOTH of the planes that hit WTC1 and WTC2. He knew what he was talking about when he told me personally that it was unimaginable that the incompetents alleged to have flown the four 9/11 jetliners could have done what these planes did on 9/11 by themselves.

Jamie Kelso · 04-14-2009

Listen to Capt. Russ Wittenburg in this video, as he tells you what he told me, that it is unimaginable that the four planes hijacked on 9/11 could have been flown on the paths they flew with nothing but the retarded skills known to have been possessed by the 19 Saudis and other Arabs. Wittenburg actually flew the flight 175 plane (WTC2) and the flight 77 plane (Shanksville, PA) as a commercial pilot. More than just about anyone on Earth, Russ Wittenburg is qualified to comment on what these planes and these "pilots" could or could not do.

YouTube - Pilot who flew flight 93 and 175

Jamie Kelso · 08-17-2009

I got to see Richard Gage for the second time when he spoke at Emmanuel Presbyterian Church on Wilshire Blvd. (next to the old Ambassador Hotel) in June 2009 (date?).

Gage's website, AE911Truth, has been growing well. There are now (as of Aug. 17, 2009) 760 professional architects and engineers who have signed the ae911truth petition for a brand-new investigation. This is great.

Watch for a big bump up in the website, in the membership, and in press coverage when the 2009 patriot rallies take place in New York City in the week of 9/11. Richard Gage will be featured. He'll probably speak in the same Webster Hall where we met in 2007. Webster Hall can hold 2,000 people. It'll be packed. Webster Hall is at 125 E. 11th St. on the Lower East Side. There will be at least four full days of rallies all over Lower Manhattan, including of course, at the WTC site itself, and below Larry Silverstein's office windows at the rebuilt WTC 7. You don't want to miss these rallies.

Jamie Kelso · 10-06-2009

The great news is that AE911Truth, Richard Gage's website, is growing fast now.

The number of architects and engineers who have signed up as calling 9/11 an inside job has just passed 900, now at 907. 1,000 is just around the bend. People are going to pay attention when they see the names of 1,000 licensed architects and engineers telling them that 9/11 was an inside job.

Jamie Kelso · 10-08-2009

Richard Gage Addresses Prestigious
Commonwealth Club in California

I'm copying and pasting this event report off of Mr. Gage's AE911Truth website:

Quote:

Richard Gage, AIA, founder and CEO of the non-profit Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth (AE911Truth), presented a 40-minute version of the two-hour presentation 9/11: Blueprint for Truth to a sold-out crowd at the prestigious Commonwealth Club of California in San Francisco on Tuesday, September 8th, which was also live-streamed on AE911Truth's website. This event kicked off a very full week of engagements for the 8th anniversary of 9/11. John Sutter, a member of the Commonwealth Club and an AE911Truth petition signatory, worked tirelessly behind the scenes to negotiate this strategic and opportune breakthrough. After the event was initially canceled due to its controversy, he worked diligently to restore this event, and after an internal battle at the club, he fortunately prevailed. The standing ovation received after Gage's presentation confirmed his instincts that the event would be well-received.
Founded in 1903, The Commonwealth Club of California has played host to a diverse and distinguished array of speakers, from Teddy Roosevelt in 1911 to Erin Brockovich in 2001. Along the way, Martin Luther King, Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton and Bill Gates have all given landmark speeches there. Outside the Bay Area, The Club's weekly radio broadcast — the oldest in the U.S., dating back to 1924 — is carried across the nation on public radio stations.
The Commonwealth Club is the oldest speaking club in the United States, and has had such eminent speakers as David Ray Griffin, Christopher Hitchens, Patty Duke, Reza Aslan, P.J. O'Rourke, George Shultz, Madeleine K. Albright, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Meg Whitman and Ted Turner recently, and in years prior, Cecil B. DeMille, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Edward Teller, Nelson A. Rockefeller, Robert F. Kennedy, Benjamin Spock, Katherine Graham, Jesse Jackson, Queen Noor al Hussein of Jordan, Carl Sagan, Desmond Tutu, and Gore Vidal.
The event was preceded by the haunting melodies of internationally acclaimed musician Alan Tower on the huaca, a double-chambered, clay-fired flute. Tower is a 9/11 skeptic who used his exceptional talent to soothe what possibly was an uneasy audience, a little fearful that they were about to be confronted with information that would make them uncomfortable. They could not have anticipated the extent to which their preconceptions were about to be shattered by Gage's solid evidence.
Twenty-one people believed fire alone brought down the buildings, and 41 were unsure. Only two people still believed the fire hypothesis, and 15 remained unsure. While nearly one-third of the audience began the evening skeptical of AE911Truth's conclusion, more than 90% were convinced beyond a doubt that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition, once they heard and saw even this abbreviated version of the evidence.
This success rate has been consistent in every venue, and in many cases there is a 100% conversion rate. This proves that logic, facts and scientific evidence can win over most skeptics who previously clung to the official story, which was inculcated through the mainstream media moments after the planes hit the towers.

Jamie Kelso · 10-11-2009

Live Today from Boston
Oct. 11, 2009 Join Richard Gage with
Streaming Video At This Link

Richard Gage Webcast from Boston ? An OpenChange Project

Jamie Kelso · 10-26-2009

The excellent growth of Richard Gage's website, the top website covering 9/11 Truth, is encouraging. As look at the site http://www.ae911truth.org right now I see a new announced total of 962 professional architects and engineers who have joined Gage's call for a REAL 9/11 investigation. I also notice the success of Mr. Gage's current fundraiser, which has raised 98% of a target of around $10,000 toward covering the cost of the next 9/11 Truth booths at AIA (American Institute of Architects) events.

Jamie Kelso · 10-27-2009

Van Romero

Notable Retractions

New Mexico demolitions expert Van Romero said on the day of the attack that he believed the building collapses were "too methodical" to have been a result of the collisions, and that he thought "there were some explosive devices inside the buildings that caused the towers to collapse." His remarks were published in the Albuquerque Journal 1 and are reprinted below. Ten days later the same newspaper printed a retraction, in which Romero is quoted as saying "Certainly the fire is what caused the building to fail." 2 His assertion of the official line in the second article is not backed up by any explanation or analysis.
Here is the text of the 9/11/01 article.
Explosives Planted In Towers, N.M. Tech Expert Says

By Olivier Uyttebrouck
Journal Staff Writer

Televised images of the attacks on the World Trade Center suggest that explosives devices caused the collapse of both towers, a New Mexico Tech explosion expert said Tuesday. The collapse of the buildings appears "too methodical" to be a chance result of airplanes colliding with the structures, said Van Romero, vice president for research at New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology. "My opinion is, based on the videotapes, that after the airplanes hit the World Trade Center there were some explosive devices inside the buildings that caused the towers to collapse," Romero said.
Romero is a former director of the Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center at Tech, which studies explosive materials and the effects of explosions on buildings, aircraft and other structures.
Romero said he based his opinion on video aired on national television broadcasts. Romero said the collapse of the structures resembled those of controlled implosions used to demolish old structures. "It would be difficult for something from the plane to trigger an event like that," Romero said in a phone interview from Washington, D.C. Romero said he and another Tech administrator were on a Washington-area subway when an airplane struck the Pentagon. He said he and Denny Peterson, vice president for administration and finance, were en route to an office building near the Pentagon to discuss defense-funded research programs at Tech.
If explosions did cause the towers to collapse, the detonations could have been caused by a small amount of explosive, he said. "It could have been a relatively small amount of explosives placed in strategic points," Romero said.
The explosives likely would have been put in more than two points in each of the towers, he said. The detonation of bombs within the towers is consistent with a common terrorist strategy, Romero said. "One of the things terrorist events are noted for is a diversionary attack and secondary device," Romero said. Attackers detonate an initial, diversionary explosion that attracts emergency personnel to the scene, then detonate a second explosion, he said.
Romero said that if his scenario is correct, the diversionary attack would have been the collision of the planes into the towers. Tech President Dan Lopez said Tuesday that Tech had not been asked to take part in the investigation into the attacks. Tech often assists in forensic investigations into terrorist attacks, often by setting off similar explosions and studying the effects.

(C) 2001, Albuquerque Journal
Reprinted for Fair Use Only
Here is the text of the 9/21/01 article.
Fire, Not Extra Explosives, Doomed Buildings, Expert Says

By John Fleck
Journal Staff Writer

A New Mexico explosives expert says he now believes there were no explosives in the World Trade Center towers, contrary to comments he made the day of the Sept. 11 terrorist attack.
"Certainly the fire is what caused the building to fail," said Van Romero, a vice president at the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology.
The day of the attack, Romero told the Journal the towers' collapse, as seen in news videotapes, looked as though it had been triggered by carefully placed explosives.
Subsequent conversations with structural engineers and more detailed looks at the tape have led Romero to a different conclusion.
Romero supports other experts, who have said the intense heat of the jet fuel fires weakened the skyscrapers' steel structural beams to the point that they gave way under the weight of the floors above. That set off a chain reaction, as upper floors pancaked onto lower ones.
Romero said he believes still it is possible that the final collapse of each building was triggered by a sudden pressure pulse caused when the fire reached an electrical transformer or other source of combustion within the building.
But he said he now believes explosives would not have been needed to create the collapse seen in video images.
Conspiracy theorists have seized on Romero's comments as evidence for their argument that someone else, possibly the U.S. government, was behind the attack on the Trade Center.
Romero said he has been bombarded with electronic mail from the conspiracy theorists.
"I'm very upset about that," he said. "I'm not trying to say anything did or didn't happen."

(C) 2001, Albuquerque Journal
Reprinted for Fair Use Only
Several articles appearing on the website of the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology are highly suggestive of what may have motivated Romero to change his story. 3 4 5 6
References

1. Explosives Planted In Towers, N.M. Tech Expert Says, 9/11/01
2. Fire, Not Extra Explosives, Doomed Buildings, Expert Says, 9/21/01
3. VP Van Romero Named Chairman of Domestic Preparedness Consortium, NMT, [cached]
4. Wall Street Journal Names Tech 'Hot School', NMT, [cached]
5. New Mexico Tech Vice President Romero Named a Top Lobbyist, NMT, [cached]
6. Tech Receives $15 M for Anti-Terrorism Program, NMT, [cached]

Jamie Kelso · 11-12-2009

This is a screen capture of Richard Gage's AE911Truth website, where as of Nov. 12, 2009 there are 961 licensed architects and engineers agreeing in public that 9/11 was an inside job. All 961 are putting their reputations and livelihoods on the line.

Jamie Kelso · 11-23-2009

Aerial view of WTC
Graphic by Jamie Kelso - White News Now - use freely

Map of World Trade Center
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The "Tub" of the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2007
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9/11 Truthers Gathered on 9/11/2007 at WTC Subway Station
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The World Trade Center hole on 9/11/2007
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Vesey Street view on north side of World Trade Center
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Looking straight up Vesey St. edge of rebuilt WTC7 on 9/11/2007
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Jamie Kelso · 11-23-2009

WTC Seven
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Alex Jones at Webster Hall in our 9/11/2007 rally on lower east side
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9/11 Truthers with Alex Jones in center of Times Square Sept. 2007
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Chanting "Oh Laaaaryyy" at Larry Silverstein in front of rebuilt WTC7
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Jamie Kelso · 11-23-2009

We Truthers yelling at Larry Silverstein's office in WTC on 9/11/2007
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Our 9/11 Truther army roaring at Geraldo Rivera on live TV at Radio City Music Hall
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9/11 Truthers Shouting Down Geraldo Rivera on 6th Ave live TV
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Jeering Geraldo Rivera live on national TV Sept. 2007
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Jamie Kelso · 11-23-2009

Audience hears Richard Gage at 9/11 Truther Rally in Webster Hall Sept. 2007
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Ron Paul T-shirt at 9/11 Truther rallies Sept. 2007
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Richard Gage with Alex Jones in Webster Hall on lower east side Sept. 2007
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9/11 Firefighters station welcomes us chanting "Heroes" in Sept. 2007
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Jamie Kelso · 01-04-2010

This is a great graphic that I linked from Richard Gage's website http://www.ae911truth.org.

30.06 · 01-07-2010

9/11 Missing Links

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