Thread: Nationalistic Sentiments Rising in Greece

Does anyone else read about the Golden Dawn, and is in absolute awe of the party's surge upwards? I can't believe it. It's absolutely fantastic. Seeing stuff like this "only Aryans in blood and Greeks in descent can be candidate members of Golden Dawn" is great, because any nationalist party to say that in Western Europe would be illegalised immediately.

Originally Posted by leRoux

Does anyone else read about the Golden Dawn, and is in absolute awe of the party's surge upwards? I can't believe it. It's absolutely fantastic. Seeing stuff like this "only Aryans in blood and Greeks in descent can be candidate members of Golden Dawn" is great, because any nationalist party to say that in Western Europe would be illegalised immediately.

I agree. I have high hopes in Golden Down.
I wish luck to our Greek white brothers!

The Greeks definitely need a real solution to save their country from the mess it's gotten into with all this EU garbage, and Nationalists are pretty much the only valid solution!

Rise of far right in Greece worries mainstream

ATHENS, Greece (AP) -- Reeling from a vicious financial crisis that has cost them pensions and jobs, Greeks have been turning away in droves from the mainstream politicians they feel have let them down. Another political force is trying to tap the void, with blunt promises to "clean up" the country.

It's one that could see Europe's most extreme far right deputies take up seats in Greece's Parliament in crucial May 6 elections.

Black-clad Golden Dawn members have been storming across the campaign trail across Greece, stopping to chat at cafes and shops, handing out fliers promising security in crime-ridden neighborhoods - and vowing to kick out immigrants.

Greece's borders, they say, must be sealed with land mines to stop illegal crossing into a country that became the entry point for 90 percent of the European Union's illegal migrants. Authorities estimate there are about 1 million migrants living in this country of 11 million.

Appealing to populist sentiment, Golden Dawn has been gathering donations of food and clothing to deliver to the needy while pledging to make politicians accountable for the crisis. Ordinary Greeks are struggling under tough conditions demanded for rescue loan deals that have pushed the country into a fifth year of recession.

"Golden Dawn stands against this corrupt system of power. All those who are responsible for the waste of public money must go to jail. That is our priority," said Ilias Kasidiaris, a 31-year-old party member who served in the Greek army's special forces.
Around him, the party offices in downtown Athens were a hive of activity, with newcomers dropping in and the membership list growing by the day. In the back, T-shirts and caps are for sale marked with the party logo, taken from the ancient Greek meander, a motif resembling the swastika and often seen on ancient mosaics, carvings and wall paintings.

Firmly on the fringe of the right since it first appeared 20 years ago, Golden Dawn garnered a meager 0.23 percent in the 2009 elections. Now, it looks set to easily win more than the 3 percent threshold needed to enter Parliament, with recent opinion polls showing support at about 5 percent.

The party has a barely veiled sinister side, and has been blamed for vicious attacks on immigrants. Members skirt questions about violence, saying they have no knowledge of such incidents.

"We don't do anything, we protect the Greeks," said Epaminondas Anyfantis, a mild-mannered, 59-year-old candidate who looks the antithesis of many of the young, muscled and shaven-headed members. "Now, if in protecting the Greeks, a foreigner might get a slap or a kick or something, I think that's in the framework of the protection of the Greeks. ... Because unfortunately the Greeks at the moment have come to the point of asking Golden Dawn for protection."

With parts of central Athens turning into ghetto-like neighborhoods where drug users inject openly and muggings and burglaries are regular events, many have lost confidence in the police.

Giorgos Vardzis, who lives in the small seaside town of Artemida, has taken down the numbers of Golden Dawn members in case of emergencies.

"Who else should I call, the police? ... When you ask for help from the police because you're being killed, you have to be killed first, and then the police will come," he said.
Immigrants are increasingly concerned.

"We are worried very much," said Javed Aslam, the head of the Pakistani community in Greece, during a recent anti-racist demonstration. "This is very bad. You can imagine one political party with weapons, with knives, they are going out in the roads, and this is politics? This is not politics!"

Led by Nikolas Mihaloliakos, who won a seat on the Athens city council in 2010 local elections and shocked Greeks by delivering a fascist salute in his first appearance there, Golden Dawn rejects the neo-Nazi label, pointing out that many of their fathers fought the Germans during the Nazi occupation of Greece.

"We are Greek nationalists. Nothing more and nothing less than that," said Kasidiaris.
But they don't hide their admiration for many of Hitler's policies, saying he eliminated unemployment in Germany. Golden Dawn members often give fascist salutes at marches and rallies featuring nationalist slogans and burning torches, pictures of which adorn walls in party offices.

And they are tapping into a deep well of discontent with the parties that have dominated Greek politics for decades, conservative New Democracy and socialist PASOK.

"Our children have no jobs. They cut my husband's pension," said Evlambia Spantidaki, sitting on the porch of a friend's house in Artemida. "For a while I voted New Democracy. I changed and voted for PASOK. But now nothing, none of them."
This year, her vote will go to Golden Dawn.

"All those people who are following us at the moment, let's be realistic ... they didn't suddenly become nationalists from one minute to the next," said Giorgos Germenis, a member of the party's political council responsible for ideology. He is running as a Golden Dawn candidate in the wider Athens area. "It is a vote of protest. They find confidence in the face of Golden Dawn, that it will enter Parliament and really shake up the system."

With none of its more than 220 candidates, bar its leader, a recognized politician, the party also plays to voters disillusioned with the political elite.

"We will never become politicians. We are soldiers and we will die soldiers," said Anyfantis. "We are soldiers fighting for a cause."

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While I support the Golden Dawn, I believe that it's just a matter of time before they bring in UN troops. And remember, there are still US troops in nearby Serbia. I would really hate to see this happen, especially to those who are willing to fight for their nation and race.

Also socialistic sentiments are on the rise (not only in Greece, also in France and many other European countries, Norway, Netherlands, Belgium)
The persons that have caused mass immigration and the economic problems have caused this 'nationalism', it is not the people's nationalism (the culture and the national things) In France the same is happening (rise of socialists and nationalists, exactly how it occured in Germany) If a politician gets access into the mainstream media this is a pro system politician (not for the people, but working for an elite)
Europe is heading in the wrong direction again. Our survival is not going to happen via another empire or (totlitarian system) socialism or (system) nationalism. But via knowledge and understanding how they could have take over Germany and Russia last century (most people do not know because were never told, the media does not tell the details, details like economics, propaganda, mind control, emotion (depression vs euforism), and politics and rethoric. The EU and euro will collapse, because from this collapse socialism and nationalism are rising very fast. There is also a third option possible, a politician that warns is appearing, and warns about the same as happened to the Germany, and next people will vote in mass on this warner (again a pro system politician)
What Europe is going to look like (if people stay in a trance) is a Europe full of dictatorships, full of totalitarian systems (and then these leaders can shake hands and create another EU, but this time the hard way, a European empire, in other words another Rome can happen, which is very bad for our survival, war will emerge from that empire again, as always happened)

Greek Elections 2012: Right Wing Golden Dawn Party Wins Enough Votes To Enter Parliament

Propaganda?

Greek extremists accused of anti-immigrant attacks

ATHENS, Greece – An immigrant rights group on Thursday accused a Greek far-right party of being behind hundreds of violent attacks on immigrants as part of a stepped-up "terror campaign" aimed at driving them out of the country.
Leading activist Petros Constantinou told a news conference that the number of such attacks had ballooned since Sunday's crucial national election, which saw the extreme Golden Dawn party nab 18 seats in parliament.
"There's a huge pogrom underway now that has been organized by Golden Dawn gangs, with fascist and racist attacks in neighborhoods and in subway and bus stations," said Constantinou, coordinator of the United Against Racism and Fascist Violence Movement. "Right now we have dozens of injured, stabbing victims."
Constantinou said Golden Dawn's strong showing in the poll has emboldened it to step up such violence, and he accused police of covering up for the party.

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