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    This could get interesting.
    In a Dec. 16 editorial, the Star rightly called on Prime Minister Stephen Harper to meet with Chief Theresa Spence, now in her 10th day of a hunger strike. It rightly drew attention to the ongoing housing crisis at Attawapiskat First Nation. Yet, it missed the big picture.

    Spence’s hunger strike is not just about Attawapiskat. It is not just about housing or school funding. And it is not just about the omnibus budget Bill C-45, which eliminates federally protected waterways and facilitates the sale of reserve lands without consultation. It is about all of that and more.

    Spence’s hunger strike is part of the Idle No More movement, which, in a matter of days, has become the largest, most unified, and potentially most transformative Indigenous movement at least since the Oka resistance in 1990.

    The fundamental issue is the nation-to-nation treaty relationship with Indigenous peoples that Canadian governments repeatedly flout by passing legislation without free, prior and informed consent. ...
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    We are supposed to Treat them as equal Nations?
    We are Colonialists occupying Their Stolen Land?
    We are murdering Their Women?

    Aboriginal hostility has been hidden from the Public by an Elite Class Who ceaselessly pander to Them and flatter them as the "first Environmentalists". They will get awake up call because these People mean business.

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    Aboriginal protest closes Trans-Canada Highway in northern Ontario for 3 hours Aboriginal protest closes Trans-Canada Highway in northern Ontario for 3 hours - Yahoo! News Canada
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    First Ontario. Now, New Brunswick. The natives are restless. This could spiral out of control quickly. Idle No More protests block New Brunswick roadways
    First Nations people blocked roads and highways across New Brunswick on Friday as part of the Canada-wide Idle No More movement, protesting the federal government's omnibus budget Bill C-45.
    In Fredericton, several members of the St. Mary's First Nation blocked a road on the city's north side. They beat drums and chanted.
    About a dozen people from the Woodstock First Nation also demonstrated, waving signs with messages to the Harper government at passing motorists.
    People from Elsibogtog First Nation also made a stand, proudly displaying First Nation flags.
    Outside Perth-Andover, along the Trans-Canada Highway, members of the Tobique First Nation voiced their outrage at Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
    "We're opposing Harper's dictatorship in terms of attacking our treaties with this Bill C-45," said Tina Perley-Martin.
    She said the issue goes much further than just a native rights issue. She says everyone should be concerned.
    "There's strength in unity and across Turtle Island right now, all nations are coming together and we have the support of non-natives, which is awesome," said Perley-Martin.
    "I mean, you see the cars going by here and they're blowing the horns you know and giving us the high five and thumbs up and that's good."
    First Nations people contend Bill C-45 violates their treaty rights and weakens environmental laws.
    The bill proposes significant changes to the federal Indian Act, including changes to land management on reserves that would make it easier for the federal government to control reserve land. It will also mean fewer protected waterways.
    Those involved in Idle No More have said they are upset about the effects of federal policies on their communities, and the government's habit of making changes to the Indian Act without consulting aboriginal people first.
    Idle No More protests block New Brunswick roadways - Yahoo! News Canada
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    They must be violating local ordinances by blocking the roads like that. Won't the local law enforcement send them packing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Jack Pershing View Post
    They must be violating local ordinances by blocking the roads like that. Won't the local law enforcement send them packing?
    Laws are not enforced on Indians like they are on us. Why? Because government if AFRAID of the Indians. They either get their way, or they play the victim card.
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    Same problem here in the US SS. The American Indian has privileges that no other American has, they have a land set aside to make their own laws, run casino's most of the time tax free, local law enforcement has no jurisdiction on these reservations. The main reason for them so we were taught from a young age was because the "White man" came to this vast land of which the Indian owned the whole continent; and proceeded to evict and slaughter the Indians so that the evil White man could set up colonies and civil societies. We are taught that at first the Indian was dumb enough to trade Manhattan for a jar of beads and trinkets, and when that did not work we forcibly removed them the more we expanded into area where they had their mobile living camps set seasonal. One thing is true, the White man can be ruthless, and can dominate squandered opportunity, but it's a bad rap that history has laid on White man. Every culture where you see the "White man" intervene and live along with a non-white peoples you see their standard of living rise sharply, When you watch the missionaries Religious or not in Africa, South America, Island Nations you see the White Man there trying to help the people who for a thousand years still have not figured out how to get running water, or sanitary waste. No one forced the White Man to do this it is our Nature as a people to try and civilize the un-civil so that we may all live in peace. It is true when we encounter unreasonable peoples like some of the American Indians who wanted the Evil "White Man" to go back out to sea and return to where he cometh, we will do whatever is necessary to hold our claim. The whole premise of allowing the American Indian to even exist is brought on by the thought that they lived on the US lands for thousands of years and though they wanted us gone and claimed the whole of North America Indian land the White man figured it best and fair to give them protected vast lands within the Newly formed civil society the USA. On top of that formulate many grants for tax paying Whites to transfer over to the helpless Indian, allow them to make their own laws within the USA on their reservations, and restrict jurisdiction of US law enforcement. So we all learned of the "Trail of Tears" as young students in School, the version of course that makes the White man out the worst, but the truth is the Indian was the savage who slaughtered white families just looking for a place to call home, a simple wagon a few tools is all these European dreamers had, and for that many of them were scalped and children murdered ruthlessly for quarter of land in No Where Alabama with no inhabitants living on it. It all be not even justifiable even by the White liberal explanation if the "Kennewick Man" is studied more and the conclusion, the truth comes out, that while in the Early US Indians lived South of Today's Texas and migrated north and north east while the tribe of the earliest found bones ever in the US (That of the Caucasian) circa 9500 years ago in Washington State could change History, Where are his people and how far did they live? If the first inhabitants of the US were White what does that do to the belief the White man stole this land? How then will the Casino's and government grants be justified in any manner? Indian reservations should be done away with tomorrow, they chose war over assimilation.......they lost To winner go the spoils of war, and the Evil White man seems to be the only race of man who always wants to help those he conquered. They have no more claim to the Dakota's than I do. This is another problem that needs the attention of our People and must be updated and am mended at some point. Hopefully the "Kennewick Man" Will give cause just for that. A correction in History in this Nation is needed badly, there are so many falsehoods taught in our schools brought on by liberal Whites who have always worried more about those who hate us than their own, some how while we were busy building the Greatest Nation on earth they embedded themselves in our school curriculum and slowly pushed and agenda to make us out the bad guy's in all cases. Few know the truth that there were many black men who fought on the Confederate side during the civil war as freemen (Most of which owned slaves themselves), I have a picture of a reunion of Confederate troops meeting up in Winston Alabama in 1906, out of the ten men in the photo 3 where black. The liberal can contend all day that White slave owners in the South often donated slaves to fight for the south against their will (Which may have some truth) The men that showed up to this reunion sure did not do so because their master in 1906 forced them to, These old men did not proudly hold their Rifles in the photo for any reason other than being proud to be with their former allies in arms. American History also speaks little of the early slave trade, the fact the US was the seventh Nation in the World to incorporate slavery is not widely known and not taught, the fact that most of the slaves that ended up here in the USA where sold by conquering tribal leaders in Africa....lucky for them, I am sure their fate would have been much worse staying a slave of a conquering tribe. This is not taught and never will be in US schools. So much to do.......Getting our history books in order will be a priority once our cause is realized. The unfair treatment the White man in the US endures today vs the *American Indian is something that must be dealt with, reservations should be a thing of the past and if the Kennewick Man is studied and not hidden it would justify a re-look at what and how we handled the American Indian. Not even 30 miles from my Alabama home there are Vegas style casino's operating on small Indian claimed reservations, most tax free. The State and the Feds give all these tribes special grants to build homes, schools, and roads to this day! And they are making millions per day on these Casino's. Yet another European Americans problem that must be dealt with!
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    The Skraelings are blocking a CN railway line. in spite of the fact that CN obtained a court order to remove these derelicts.

    Theresa Spence snubs Brazeau as Idle No More blockade goes into 4th day | Canada | News | National Post

    Let's see, wasn't Terry Tremaine sentenced to up to 6 months in jail for ignoring a court order? It seems some are more equal than others in Kanuckistan.
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    Aboriginal Affairs minister 'concerned' about health of hunger-striking chief
    Aboriginal Affairs Minister John Duncan says he is concerned about the health of a northern Ontario First Nation chief who is on a hunger strike near Parliament Hill.In a letter sent to Attawapiskat Chief Theresa Spence on Tuesday, Duncan says he is worried about the leader's well-being and urges her to end her protest.
    Spence has been on a hunger strike in a teepee on an island in the Ottawa River since Dec. 11 to focus public attention on aboriginal issues.
    She is seeking a meeting with the prime minister, the governor general and First Nations leaders to discuss the government's relationship with First Nations.
    The letter says Spence has been unresponsive to Duncan's offer of meeting with her or speaking to her by phone.
    Duncan's letter also says Aboriginal Affairs is prepared to set up a working group between federal and First Nations representatives to discuss treaty and rights issues between Ottawa and aboriginal governments.
    "I remain concerned about your health and hope that you will accept my offer to speak about how we might move forward with improving the treaty relationship," Duncan writes.
    Aboriginal Affairs minister 'concerned' about health of hunger-striking chief - Yahoo! News Canada
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    If Harper doesn't do anything, he creates a martyr. If he caves in, he creates repeat hunger strikers. Interesting stuff.
    A Canadian aboriginal chief in the third week of a hunger strike is urging Prime Minister Stephen Harper to "open his heart" and meet with native leaders angered by his policies as small impromptu protests spread beyond Canada's borders. Chief Theresa Spence from the remote northern Ontario community of Attawapiskat has been fasting since December 11 and has vowed to continue until Harper commits to talks on a litany of complaints, including new legislation that she says will harm native lands.
    "He's a person with a heart but he needs to open his heart. I'm sure he has faith in the Creator himself and for him to delay this, it's very disrespectful, I feel, to not even meet with us," she said in an interview in Ottawa.
    Spence is at the center of an unprecedented Canadian aboriginal protest movement called "Idle No More" that began with four women in the province of Saskatchewan raising awareness about the Conservative government's budget legislation passed earlier this month.
    The legislation, which has also been criticized by opposition politicians, reduces environmental protections for lakes and rivers and makes it easier to sell reserve lands.


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    Aboriginal protesters shut down Ontario bridge for Idle No More cause
    CORNWALL, Ont. - A border crossing from Canada to the United States has been shut down this morning by First Nations protesters.
    Police in Cornwall, Ont., say the Seaway International Bridge has been shut down since about 10:30 a.m.
    It is unclear when the toll bridge, which connects the city, and Akwesasne, Ont., to Massena, N.Y., will be re-opened.
    Cornwall Sgt. Marc Bissonnette says there are about 100 to 150 demonstrators marching on the bridge, as part of the Idle No More movement.
    Bissonnette says the bridge was shut down as a public safety precaution and the demonstrators have had no incidents with police.
    A number of other similar protests have been planned throughout the country today, prompting police to warn travellers to plan ahead when using some highways and bridges due to unplanned closures.
    The toll bridge is a major transportation hub in the area and more than 2.3 million commercial and private vehicles use it annually.
    Aboriginal protesters shut down Ontario bridge for Idle No More cause - Yahoo! News Canada
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    What did THE FIRST NATIONS do Today. Blockade a few Bridges, Border crossings and Railways for three plus Hours I heard. Last I heard from the C.B.C. progressive types was that "People of different backgrounds" were protesting. Just what I'm not sure.

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    Funny article about Spence's "hunger strike"

    You call that a
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnRossTaylor View Post
    Funny article about Spence's "hunger strike"

    You call that a
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    ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff fffffff
    The remarkable thing about Attawapiskat Chief Theresa Spence’s celebrated hunger strike is that when she stopped it, after 44 days of fish broth, she looked as plump as she did when she started it.
    Judging from the more famous hunger strikers at Northern Ireland’s Maze prison during British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher’s campaign to bring the IRA to heel, Chief Spence is made of sterner stuff than those Irishmen.
    After 44 days of no food (not even fish broth), Bobby Sands looked a wreck and adamantly refused to change his mind.
    Chief Spence, apparently, as well has having an extraordinary metabolic system that withstands starvation, is a lousy administrator and manager.
    Superimposed on Chief Spence’s curious road show, the Idle No More movement caught the attention of politicians, media and the people whose travel plans were violated by road and railway blockages that the police did little to deter.
    What Stephen Harper would like is Aboriginals integrated into Canadian society. What Indian chiefs want is more money.
    Guess who will win?
    Starved for attention: Chief Spence may have attracted media spotlight, but that
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    The thing about idle no more is too many people are focusing on the aboriginals wanting to be treated fairly and not enough on the problems at stake that affect us all. Even though we're against immigrants being here, it's the one time where we need to set our differences aside and join together because Bill C45 affects us all.
    Spread the pride nationwide! Together we grow stronger to fight this act of bringing true civil rights back.

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