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    Default All's well with migrant crime in Australia

    This article is FULL of it. It's fairly long too, so this is fair usage:

    However, data collected by the Australian Bureau of Statistics shows that Lebanese make up the fifth largest ethnic group in Australian prisons after Australians, New Zealanders, Vietnamese and British and Irish, with 226 Lebanese prisoners last year accounting for 0.75 per cent of all detainees held for serious crimes.
    Per head of population, Lebanese-born people had the seventh highest rate of imprisonment (after Samoans, Tongans, Sudanese, Vietnamese, Romanians and Indonesians).

    Victoria's then police commissioner Christine Nixon denied there was a problem, although Vicpol's statistics suggested young Sudanese were being arrested at roughly four times the average rate. The ABS report Prisoners in Australia shows that last year Sudanese had the third highest imprisonment rate (after Samoans and Tongans) of any nationality.

    Similar concerns were voiced in South Australia in 2008, when deputy police commissioner Gary Burns said his force faced "an emerging, probably contemporary, policing issue", with 450 offences having been committed by 93 members of a Sudanese community numbering 1500 in the space of 16 months.

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    Stan, Stan, Stan...you know how reading The Australian angrys up the blood.

    Some observations on that article;
    -Nobody "Flees to Australia" from war torn societies, they are selected by immigration officials and brought here.
    -Why should any of us care about "organised" crime? It's the people being bashed on trains or robbed in pub car parks or having their homes burgled that we should focus on.
    -There is no "systemic failure" in the integration of "vulnerable new arrivals", it's a blatant incompetence and vanity on the part of a very few people, namely Refugee advocates, Churches and Local Government.
    -Why are Samoans and Tongans even here? You never hear Anti Racists talking about Islanders being "oppressed" in their own lands, there are no Islander advocates on the Left.
    -You'd think that the failures of the past would have some bearing on forward planning...but no, it's with some satisfaction that the reporter notes the fact that most of the old Vietnamese Gangsters are dead, in jail or have moved on to "more sophisticated" criminal activity.........


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Of Melbourne View Post
    Stan, Stan, Stan...you know how reading The Australian angrys up the blood.

    Some observations on that article;
    -Nobody "Flees to Australia" from war torn societies, they are selected by immigration officials and brought here.
    -Why should any of us care about "organised" crime? It's the people being bashed on trains or robbed in pub car parks or having their homes burgled that we should focus on.
    -There is no "systemic failure" in the integration of "vulnerable new arrivals", it's a blatant incompetence and vanity on the part of a very few people, namely Refugee advocates, Churches and Local Government.
    -Why are Samoans and Tongans even here? You never hear Anti Racists talking about Islanders being "oppressed" in their own lands, there are no Islander advocates on the Left.
    -You'd think that the failures of the past would have some bearing on forward planning...but no, it's with some satisfaction that the reporter notes the fact that most of the old Vietnamese Gangsters are dead, in jail or have moved on to "more sophisticated" criminal activity.........
    I couldn't get over the intention of the author to find a 'positive' outcome and repudiate what that very writer was putting to type. The police that dismiss ethnicity as a basis from crime, do so after admitting that their efforts to probe the issue were stymied by disinterested officers and recalcitrant migrant offenders. The article basically validates the position. And then we have Kevin Andrews who in '07 cut immigration from North Africa because of their high representation in crime rates. And -- YET AGAIN -- it comes to down to 'resources to help them assimilate'. Jesus. And so taking in an immigrant then puts the onus, according to them, on the host nation to nurture that person, those persons, and those communities. I say, it's far easier and more cost effective to... just... say... NO.

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