Thread: Extremists warn of immigrant 'invasion'

Originally Posted by Jay Of Melbourne

Yeah they were all but deporting Whites from the U.K and replacing them with Pakistanis and West Indians.

A lot of those poms have been back to the UK for holidays,visiting relatives and old friends. They have seen first hand what has happened when the non Whites take over. They dont want to see the same happen here. We need to encourage those people to speak about what they have witnessed. We need to get more people to speak up....HOW THE HELL DO WE ACHIEVE THAT? Thats the big question Jay. How do we get the people to stand up and fight back against the govt destroying our way of life. No one is willing to stand up and I can not do this on my own...BBQ`s and Music gigs are great for social networking among WN groups but it is not real activism,it does not create headlines and get people thinking.

Originally Posted by Hobbit

AHOW THE HELL DO WE ACHIEVE THAT?

How do we get the people to stand up and fight back against the govt destroying our way of life.

The reason people aren't willing to come out in public yet, is because we live in a system, that is every bit a closed as the Old Soviet Union was.

The only way we are going to get people to come out, is to first destroy that system's psychological hold on them and we can only do that by hitting it where it is weakest, with a consistent message that works.


So if you want to do something useful, then help us spread Bob's Mantra:

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.


The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.


Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.


What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?


How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?


And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?


But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.


They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

Spread it on the internet, or pin it up on notice boards. Do whatever you can to get it out there and tell your friends to do the same. The more of us that are doing it, the sooner we'll start to see the changes we want.

We need to be doing MORE than that. We need to be talking with mainstream media and independent media as well. We need to be seen as WN out there ON THE STREETS. NOT JUST THE INTERNET.

You take to the streets when it's over, when the system is broken.
The NSDAP took their opportunity when the Republic had all but collapsed, when they tried it prematurely they ended up on their arses.
Ditto:
Tiannemen Square.
Che in Bolivia.
The Black Panthers.
The Weathermen.
The Easter Rising
The Eureka Rebels......etc, etc.
If you go head to head with the Beast at the height of it's power it'll take you out in two seconds flat.
In fact just as an example the story I heard was that the real Anarchist opposition to the Melbourne G20, were supposedly "taken out" in raids on their homes and squats the night before, then the System's stooges turned out to attack the Police, who were deliberately denied adequate equipment or perimeter protection.

Originally Posted by Jay Of Melbourne

You take to the streets when it's over, when the system is broken.
The NSDAP took their opportunity when the Republic had all but collapsed, when they tried it prematurely they ended up on their arses.
Ditto:
Tiannemen Square.
Che in Bolivia.
The Black Panthers.
The Weathermen.
The Easter Rising
The Eureka Rebels......etc, etc.
If you go head to head with the Beast at the height of it's power it'll take you out in two seconds flat.
In fact just as an example the story I heard was that the real Anarchist opposition to the Melbourne G20, were supposedly "taken out" in raids on their homes and squats the night before, then the System's stooges turned out to attack the Police, who were deliberately denied adequate equipment or perimeter protection.

The PIRA went head to head with the British army from 1969 -1998 and forced the brits to listen to them. Yes they had setbacks but they had the balls to stand firm for what they believed. We cant wait and hope for the system to fail,what happens if that day does not arrive or we have to many that say not yet. The longer we wait the more the system will gain more control.

Yes Hitler and the others ended up in jail after the Munich disaster but at least they tried and the Easter rising failed but it bought about the war of 1919-1922 that achieved freedom for the 26 counties of the Republic of Ireland. People did not say oh the system is to strong. They went out and faced it head on. If you are that scared of failing then you will never succeed.

If I walked down Swanston St waving a White Pride Flag,would you walk along side me?

Originally Posted by Hobbit

The PIRA went head to head with the British army from 1969 -1998 and forced the brits to listen to them. Yes they had setbacks but they had the balls to stand firm for what they believed. We cant wait and hope for the system to fail,what happens if that day does not arrive or we have to many that say not yet. The longer we wait the more the system will gain more control.

The British were interning, torturing and killing people, no one's doing that here.

Yes Hitler and the others ended up in jail after the Munich disaster but at least they tried and the Easter rising failed but it bought about the war of 1919-1922 that achieved freedom for the 26 counties of the Republic of Ireland. People did not say oh the system is to strong. They went out and faced it head on. If you are that scared of failing then you will never succeed.

Again, no one's on the street slinging steel at you, when they are we'll talk about a response, at the moment there's no more than a handful of people in this country actively saying we need to limit our birthrate and let more non Whites in.

We need to be doing MORE than that. We need to be talking with mainstream media and independent media as well. We need to be seen as WN out there ON THE STREETS. NOT JUST THE INTERNET.

It achieves nothing, it never has, we're about 70 years too late for that kind of activism, the "Real" Commies and Anarchists don't even do it anymore, they're all at home on the internet, the ones out marching for "Gay Rights" and such are scenesters, stooges and posers.
I was looking at the stats and traffic for all our sites vs their sites last night, they don't even come close in terms of either membership, posts or traffic.
We own the internet as far as that goes, we're second only to the alternative "Truth" media.

If I walked down Swanston St waving a White Pride Flag,would you walk along side me?

No, nor would I walk with you if you were waving an Australian flag, a Eureka flag or any other flag.
Why do it if there's nothing behind it and no one gunning for you?
There are no groups in this country at this point in time with whom I even share a point of view let alone feel inclined to contact, if there are then I obviously haven't heard of them yet.

Originally Posted by Jay Of Melbourne

It achieves nothing, it never has, we're about 70 years too late for that kind of activism, the "Real" Commies and Anarchists don't even do it anymore, they're all at home on the internet, the ones out marching for "Gay Rights" and such are scenesters, stooges and posers.
I was looking at the stats and traffic for all our sites vs their sites last night, they don't even come close in terms of either membership, posts or traffic.
We own the internet as far as that goes, we're second only to the alternative "Truth" media.

In other words we have more keyboard commandos than the reds,yeah thats realy something to be proud of eh,lol. Owning the net achieves nothing if we cant get people to do more than post in cyberspace. Look at the demonstration in SA. Most of the people who attended the meetings were local mums and dads who do not post on Nationalist websites. The go out onto the street and get their message across and its more effective than posting in cyberspace.

Think about this rationally for two seconds.
This series of posts effectively "Burns" those identities and the hundreds of hours that went into them from a creative point of view, so now if anyone turns up to, for example a B&H Meet and Greet on the pretext that he's "Jay Of Melbourne" or "RoadTrain" they'll know he's an impostor.
Secondly if I was "up to no good" why the Hell would I be posting here and on Stormfront?
"Nafe" asked me to join Australian New Nation in 2008. I declined.
Someone, I forget who, asked me to join Australian Identity. I declined.
In the past "Rev. Harrison", "Rev Patrick", "White Australian, "Silverfern", "Melbourneskin","Han Solo" and yourself have asked for meet ups. On every occasion I've declined.

So by your logic anyone who creates fiction or propaganda in the service of the "message" is immediately suspect, even though that's the game being played by the "other side".
They're playing Cricket and you want to beat them by playing Basketball.
Well you can't win at Cricket using the rules of Basketball.
You running up to the crease and doing a layup isn't going to win a test match is it?

When and if a "movement" is needed it'll join us, not the other way around and as with all these "Revolutions" the marching and leafleting and if necessary fighting will come in the final weeks, hours or even minutes of the struggle.
One crowded hour.
It's like felling a tree, you make the cut and put in your wedges so it'll fall where you want, you prepare it to come down then when you're clear and have gone through all the safety checks you give it one last push and over it goes.

I thought you were Pro White Hobbit.

To me a Pro White always does something positive to advance White interests. So how does trying to start trouble by attacking a fellow Pro White, advance the cause?

As for spreading information on the Internet, it is just as effective as handing out fliers on the street, because where else can you meet hundreds of complete strangers face to face and have an open discussion about race, without the Police being called, or facing threats of physical harm?

And as for you fighting the government, with what army? Right now you can't even get people to go for a walk with you, let alone risk their lives? lol

When you are serious about doing something positive, start spreading what I posted above.

Otherwise you may as well go back to posting the woe is me stuff, on message boards, while we Pro Whites get on with the hard work, of getting this message out to our people, who are still demoralized.

Originally Posted by Danger2443

I thought you were Pro White Hobbit.

To me a Pro White always does something positive to advance White interests. So how does trying to start trouble by attacking a fellow Pro White, advance the cause?

As for spreading information on the Internet, it is just as effective as handing out fliers on the street, because where else can you meet hundreds of complete strangers face to face and have an open discussion about race, without the Police being called, or facing threats of physical harm?

And as for you fighting the government, with what army? Right now you can't even get people to go for a walk with you, let alone risk their lives? lol

When you are serious about doing something positive, start spreading what I posted above.

Otherwise you may as well go back to posting the woe is me stuff, on message boards, while we Pro Whites get on with the hard work, of getting this message out to our people, who are still demoralized.

Jamie Kelso fights back with words on the internet.
Kevin Mcdonald fights back with words on the internet
David Duke fights back with words on the internet.
Bob Whitaker fights back with words on the internet.
Jim Giles, Horus The Avenger, Ryan Murdough, Bill Johnson, Edgar Steele, James Edwards, Derek black, Truck Roy, Gator 61, Paul Fromm.
Yes they do other things in their communities but I'd like to think that we all do that anyway and if it wasn't for the internet these guys would be hoofing it all over the country, wasting valuable time on travel and reaching thousands instead of millions
The internet is ours, we own it and like it or not this is what passes for the "real world" for most of our people.

White people new to this board looking at this sort of exchange for the first time need to realise that we're long past the stage of putting pressure on people to do things.
We're not about taking you anywhere you don't want to go, it's actually a big no-no in terms of "netiquette".
You are an Avatar unless you choose to be something more, but it will always be your choice.
Most sincere WN groups don't recruit, they wait for prospects to contact them on the basis of the information they make available either by handouts, literature and films or on websites.
All we ask is that you listen, read, watch the links we post and make up your own mind.

Originally Posted by Hobbit

I dont like people who hide who they really are.

You would seem to be opposed in principle, Hobbit, to anonymous cyber-activism. It is my understanding, however, that it is the policy of this forum to uphold the principle of elective anonymity, and that no presumption of dishonesty is to be made with respect to those of us who choose to remain anonymous. It is a matter of balancing idealism with practicality.


If you should insist on the self-identification of those with whom you communicate on the internet, it would be up to you to find or establish a group of individuals similarly committed to this principle as yourself.

Originally Posted by Former Liberal

I agree with Hobbit on a few points, but arent we all keyboard cowboys here?

With the exception of those like Kelso, Fromm, Duke and Black who are already insulated against the attack the low-life communists groups like the SPLC and ADL, the rest of us are just working class folks who stand to loose our jobs if we use our real names.

To Jay, i would like to think your not spreading propaganda, but the truth.

Im here to read relevant news articles to confirm what i already believe, and that is that multiculturalism is destroying all nations who subscribe to it.

Call it counter propaganda then. The "other side" no longer make extensive use of the "Truth".
The Boy In the Striped Pyjamas, Mississippi Burning, American History X and Sophies Choice are neither true nor truthful,they are however realistic.
Now if the mission of a board such as this is to put people at ease with "the message" then it's going to need a realistic cast of characters.
A 43 year old Handyman and father of two from Melbourne is a realistic, relatable image of White Nationalism for achieving that goal.
It doesn't matter if Jay is real or not in a virtual world as long as his author is scrupulous about the information he presents, which as far as possible is the case.
The negative reaction to this thread is comparable to someone asking for a meet up with one of their guild members from World Of Warcraft and then being disappointed when a hot Female Elf doesn't want to go out on a date.
Which brings me to another point, which Welf Herfurth covered on his blog a few years ago.
White people in the early 21st century increasingly turn to elaborate online fantasy worlds for relaxation and social interaction, most of them realise the boundaries, they know that what they say and do at some point has a consequence and that a lot of people invest a lot of time and money to make these worlds materialise.
People spend many thousands of hours on their avatars and profiles to build a "respectable" character, with attributes, skills and knowledge of that particular world's lore so as to attract other like minded and committed players who will boost the prestige and rank of the group.
This is no different, the "trick" to what I try do is that I use techniques learned from online worlds and apply them to other online worlds.
This is the same problem I alluded to earlier, two different rule sets,you can't use the rules of street activism online anymore than you can use online personas on the street.
From my outsider's point of view it appears that a lot of the problems in Australian WN activism stem from an inability on the part of some to differentiate then compartmentalise the online and offline worlds.

Originally Posted by Hobbit

Being anonymous is one thing but playing at being a fictional character is something else. No one even knows if the person playing the fictional role of jay of Melbourne is even White. We are here for the survival of our Race,to jay, its just a role playing game with characters he/she builds in his/her head

You broke the illusion not me.
Cast your mind back to April 9 this year, now I'm not going into detail in an open forum about what transpired that day, we've both given our accounts of the events.
You overheard one end of a conversation among Antifa from your vantage point and duly made the community at large aware of that information.
I believed you because I saw you standing where you said you were.
I heard the other end of the conversation from where I was standing and coupled with what you reported and your descriptions I was able to go to another "Anonymous" contact of mine who doesn't know me as "Jay". They confirmed that it was indeed a fact that paid provocateurs are used in these "Left" demonstrations and provided more information besides.
So in addition to being able to transmit verifiable but general information to other WN I've now been able to locate some of these characters to a specific area and in one case warn another internet poster that they were active in his neighbourhood and direct him, "Anonymously" of course to a reputable WN crew.
Now if we'd been standing together "Acting WN" we'd have gone backwards instead of forwards and totally negated any possibility of either of us "Working Crowds" in the future.

Originally Posted by Hobbit

Being anonymous is one thing...

It is one thing, Hobbit, you were inappropriately objecting to, and which I, conversely, was justifying.

Originally Posted by Hobbit

... but playing at being a fictional character is something else. No one even knows if the person playing the fictional role of jay of Melbourne is even White. We are here for the survival of our Race,to jay, its just a role playing game with characters he/she builds in his/her head

I think you are misinterpreting Jay of Melbourne's intended meaning. It seems clear to me that Jay of Melbourne and his counterpart on Stormfront, Roadtrain, are what we might term 'personas' of the one and the same individual, and serve as vehicles for the dissemination of propaganda (in a neutral or positive sense) by that individual in a particular style. In as much as this propaganda is instructive, effective and consistent, it is an honest and beneficial contribution to our cause.

Originally Posted by Hobbit

...now we know that "Jay" is nothing but a fictional character. What we call the truth,he calls propaganda. Everything about him is based on a lie.

To repeat my previous post to you, Hobbit, with slightly different terminology: I understand Jay of Melbourne to be a 'fictional character' in the sense of a 'persona'; that is, a device adopted on this forum for the purpose of disseminating propaganda, where the term 'propaganda' has no connotation of untruth. All of Jay of Melbourne's comments in this regard, on this thread, as I interpret them, seem entirely reasonable and would seem so to any visitors to this thread familiar with political cyber-forum protocol.