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    Another consequence of white guilt. Someone needs to tell these white Baptists about the Jewish role in slavery and about the black slave owners who enslaved their own people. That's not to mention the white indentured servants and slaves in America's history, or the white sex slaves who are kidnapped and taken to Israel.

    I don't think, assuming it's actually true, it's right for the Baptists to have defended slavery. They should have been seeking an abolition of slavery for blacks as long as they were immediately sent to Africa.

    Gerald Herbert/AP - The Rev. Fred Luter of the Franklin Ave. Baptist Church in New Orleans reacts as he is elected president of the Southern Baptist Convention in New Orleans.

    The Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. once said that 11 a.m. on a Sunday is “the most segregated hour of the week,” and even with an African American in the White House, that critique is still a sad reality in many Baptist churches.


    But history was made this week in New Orleans when a 55-year-old African American preacher was elected unanimously to lead the 16 million-member Southern Baptist Convention, which was founded in 1845 by Baptists who were defenders of slavery.


    Although the Southern Baptist Convention remains a predominantly white organization of 45,000 congregations, the election of Fred Luter Jr. to a one-year term as president sparked hopes among Baptists in more progressive circles that diversity would trickle down through the leadership ranks.


    Luter has long had a prominent national presence in faith circles, rising from a street-corner preacher with a few dozen followers two decades ago to lead a congregation of more than 5,000 members as senior pastor of Franklin Avenue Baptist Church in his home town of New Orleans.


    “This is humongous as far as the Southern Baptist Convention is concerned,” said the Rev. Patrick J. Walker, pastor of the New Macedonia Baptist Church in Southeast Washington and president of the Missionary Baptist Ministers Conference of Washington D.C. and Vicinity. “He is going to bring the Southern Baptist and historic African American organizations to the table.”


    At a news conference after the election, Luter praised the delegates for choosing him.


    “This was a genuine, authentic move by this convention that says our doors are open, and the only way they can see that is not just putting up an African American president, but seeing other ethnic groups in other areas of this convention,” said Luter, who was appointed first vice president of the organization last year. “Time will tell, and I’ll be a cheerleader promoting that,” he said.


    Luter’s election occurs at a time when the nation’s largest Protestant body has been experiencing a decline in membership and baptisms and is aiming for greater participation among minorities. In 1995, the body apologized for its racist history. And it has recorded growth in non-white churches of 5 percent to 19 percent between 1990 and 2010, according to the Baptist Press, the denomination’s news source.

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    “This was a genuine, authentic move by this convention that says our doors are open, and the only way they can see that is not just putting up an African American president, but seeing other ethnic groups in other areas of this convention,” said Luter, who was appointed first vice president of the organization last year. “Time will tell, and I’ll be a cheerleader promoting that,” he said.
    It's disgusting the degree to which White men will abnegate to advance an agenda that is so obviously evil. When are black denominations going to promote "diversity" and engage in a "genuine, authentic move . . . that says [their] doors are open" by electing a White leader?
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    Well, this is a frosty day in He!!. I have watched the SBC slowly sink into the multicultural P.C. abyss. The old south began to die in the 50's, and is nearly dead now. I was born in dixie but, I will never return.

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    The Evangelicals seem to be amongst our worst enemies these days. They are huge fans of never-ending wars for Israel, of 'diversity' and 'multiculturalism' and they lobby the government for amnesty for Third World illegal immigrants. All the while, their anti-intellectualism makes it very difficult to appeal to them because many are not interested in learning anything which conflicts with their warped world-view.

    Things like this re-enforce the need for a hierarchical society largely free of democracy. The uneducated and lower classes should not be able to destroy society. In the Old South this would have been impossible. First, the elites would not have allow alien elites to come in and promote an anti-White message. Second, the lower classes were protected by living in White neighbourhoods and going to White schools and churches. This protected not only the lower classes but also society at large. It made miscegenation very unlikely, for example. That kind of system has far more appeal to me than more democracy - which empowers the lower classes and the anti-Whites and seems to lead to ruin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Southerner View Post
    The Evangelicals seem to be amongst our worst enemies these days. They are huge fans of never-ending wars for Israel, of 'diversity' and 'multiculturalism' and they lobby the government for amnesty for Third World illegal immigrants. All the while, their anti-intellectualism makes it very difficult to appeal to them because many are not interested in learning anything which conflicts with their warped world-view.

    Things like this re-enforce the need for a hierarchical society largely free of democracy. The uneducated and lower classes should not be able to destroy society. In the Old South this would have been impossible. First, the elites would not have allow alien elites to come in and promote an anti-White message. Second, the lower classes were protected by living in White neighbourhoods and going to White schools and churches. This protected not only the lower classes but also society at large. It made miscegenation very unlikely, for example. That kind of system has far more appeal to me than more democracy - which empowers the lower classes and the anti-Whites and seems to lead to ruin.
    We must never forget that, Instigators from chicago and other northern cities went down to dixie to infiltrate and destroy the old south. Remember, it was the jews who started the NAACP for the sole purpose of fomenting insurrection amongst the negroes. Slowly, jews have infiltrated the SBC, I will not blame the good southern white christians except that, they should have resisted more than they did. However, the president sent federal troops to enforce the integration policies set forth by the liberal congress,Kennedy,LBJ and the warren court. Pretty darn hard to fight the entire army. jmho "W"
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    I was raised as a Southern Baptist, in churches which were members of the Southern Baptist Convention. I anticipate that many churches will leave the convention over this, and become Independent or non-denominational. Hopefully, it will force more racially conscious southerners to embrace CI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkansas Governor View Post
    I was raised as a Southern Baptist, in churches which were members of the Southern Baptist Convention. I anticipate that many churches will leave the convention over this, and become Independent or non-denominational. Hopefully, it will force more racially conscious southerners to embrace CI.
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    Not good. They are friendly to race mixing, and adopting non White kids, and a bunch of other stuff. If you are Christian You have to tune out Their Politics. Churches traditionally were Community based Organizations where the same Ethnic groups/races got together. Amongst Catholics the Irish, Italians, Poles, etc had their own Churches not because They "hated" each other, but because that is what They liked.

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    Epp said that now that the Baptists have unanimously elected the negro street preacher, Luter, as their leader, they could henceforth call themselves “Luterans.” That "Unanimous" thing threw me for a loop. Even after all that I have witnessed during the last half century, I still had a hard time believing there is not a single Southern Baptist left who wants his grandchildren to be White. But "Unanimous" means all of them according to my dictionary.

    I thought about that name change for a while, and decided it is a real good idea. It paves the way for a merger with the Lutherans. Since both denominations have been losing more and more White members as they become more and more negro and jew friendly, and have not been able to pick up enough black and brown members to compensate for the loses, a merger would help both groups. Of course some of the cushy six figure “Pastor” jobs would be lost, but the remaining jobs would be more secure.

    Both denominations agree on the cardinal points of modern evangelical doctrine, which are “Love the jew with all thine heart, and the negro as thyself,” so a merger should be relatively painless.

    The Baptists, who condemned all their forefathers to outer darkness for racism, could help the Lutherans to become good Luterans, by teaching them how to more perfectly love negroes. The Lutherans, who posthumously excommunicated their founder, Martin Luther, for writing truths about the jews, could help the Baptists to become more worshipful toward the bandit State of Israel.

    Here’s to the Luterans! Twenty Million strong and shrinking!

    As time goes by and the merged Church becomes darker and darker, they will, of course, heed the call from the Reverends Jackson and Sharpton to join in any and all street riots the two "Reverends without churches" choose to instigate. Once they have become experienced rioters, it will be relatively easy to change their name to "Looterans."
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    A perplexing thought: When the Lutherans excommunicated Martin Luther 400 years after he died, for writing all those harsh truths about the jews, do you think he was kicked out of Heaven? Or do you think maybe he went straight to Hell for "Anti-semitism" when he died? Same for all those Southern Baptist preachers, deacons and members who died before the advent of our blessed prophet ML King. Did they get a transfer, or were they all in Hell all the time?
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    One of the White Baptist leaders said the election of the negro President gives Baptists “Hopes for increased diversity.” What a joke!

    The Baptist church I attended as a youngster had diversity galore. There was blond, red, brown, and black hair. Some of it was straight, some wavy and a some curly. There were blue, green, hazel, grey and brown eyes. Complexions ranged from milky to ruddy to tawny. It’s hard to imagine more diversity.


    Fast-forward half a century or so to when every Baptist will have brown skin, dark brown eyes and shiny black hair and tell me where you get “Diversity” out of that?
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    One of my relatives had a daughter who took up with an Affikin and produced a mulatto boy. When my cousin told me about it, I told him that I was not related to any negroes, and neither was he. He protested that the child was "Blood of his blood, and bone of his bone." When I told him that he was a closer blood relative to a White child born in Scotland that he would never see than he was to the mulatto in his house, he thought I was nuts.

    When I asked him why he allowed it to happen, he said that the boy was a Brother in Christ, and it would have been a sin for him to forbid it. I told him the baby daddy might not be a Christian next week, but his grandson would be a negro forever. Last I heard, the baby daddy had moved to Detroit and become a member of the Nation of Islam. My cousin's grandson is still a negro.
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    Richard Land, head of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptists has been reprimanded and had his radio show cancelled because he was not properly respectful of Saint Trayvon Martin. Christianity Today Liveblog: Richard Land's Comments On Trayvon Martin Investigated By SBC

    Land was a leading proponent and the main writer of the Baptists’ resolution condemning all their forefathers to perdition for “Racism” at the 1995 convention, but that didn’t mean he would get any slack when he let some racial truth slip into his broadcast on Saint Trayvon.

    Again we see that it does not matter how much a White man has done to uplift the negro, and weaken his own Race when he runs afoul of the rules of cultural Marxism in post-American America.

    Like Geroge Zimmerman, who mentored negro kids and demonstrated for a negro beaten by a cop’s son, Land found that when he needed to draw on his negro-love account, the check bounced.

    I call it the “Stacy Koon” treatment. Koon was a bleeding-heart liberal Los Angeles cop, who once gave mouth-to-mouth CPR to a negro prostitute who was a known to have AIDS, but when the Rodney King thing came up, he was railroaded off to prison, just as if he had been a Grand Dragon.

    The moral of the story is that if you think you are building up brownie points with the race-hustlers by kow-towing to them, you have a very unpleasant surprise coming if you ever slip up.

    And, be warned that groveling after sinning avails naught.
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    When will the busing of negroes to the all white congregations start? Will I start having to see buses every Sunday now all throughout my white community?

    What I am saying, these folks are trying to even fool themselves! Southern baptists congregations are as segregated as the south was in 1940!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmund Ruffin View Post
    Richard Land, head of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptists has been reprimanded and had his radio show cancelled because he was not properly respectful of Saint Trayvon Martin. Christianity Today Liveblog: Richard Land's Comments On Trayvon Martin Investigated By SBC

    Land was a leading proponent and the main writer of the Baptists’ resolution condemning all their forefathers to perdition for “Racism” at the 1995 convention, but that didn’t mean he would get any slack when he let some racial truth slip into his broadcast on Saint Trayvon.

    Again we see that it does not matter how much a White man has done to uplift the negro, and weaken his own Race when he runs afoul of the rules of cultural Marxism in post-American America.

    Like Geroge Zimmerman, who mentored negro kids and demonstrated for a negro beaten by a cop’s son, Land found that when he needed to draw on his negro-love account, the check bounced.

    I call it the “Stacy Koon” treatment. Koon was a bleeding-heart liberal Los Angeles cop, who once gave mouth-to-mouth CPR to a negro prostitute who was a known to have AIDS, but when the Rodney King thing came up, he was railroaded off to prison, just as if he had been a Grand Dragon.

    The moral of the story is that if you think you are building up brownie points with the race-hustlers by kow-towing to them, you have a very unpleasant surprise coming if you ever slip up.

    And, be warned that groveling after sinning avails naught.
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    This is just one more indication of the Marxist influence with the mainstream religious denominations in this country. No organization, religion, or political party is immune to the subverting influence of 'Egalitarianism', and the 'White Guilt Trip' that the Left has been promoting for the last few decades, unless they acquire a 'racial consciousness' that in tune with the Creators natural order of racial differences, and the natural struggle between competing races.

    The individual White churches should become independent, and tell the church leadership to 'GO TO HELL'!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmund Ruffin View Post
    I don't think Southrons will give up eating pig.
    We'll rationalize. After all, Jesus said it wasn't what entered a man's mouth that defiled him, but what exited it.
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    In this 2 minute video video, the Reverend mentions only two racial incidents, both in his state of Louisiana, and both involving disrespect for the Kenyan President. Video: Rev. Fred Luter on Race in America | Watch Religion & Ethics NewsWeekly Online | PBS Video

    This set me off, because he is talking about the state that has the HIGHEST murder rate in the country, with negroes committing the vast majority of the murders. Since the two incidents he mentioned, where no one was hurt, negroes have killed hundreds of people in his state, including the vicious home invasion mass murder of this White family in Gonzales, LA: Three arrests made in Gonzales home invasion murders - Gonzales, LA - Gonzales Weekly Citizen
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    That "Unanimous" thing threw me for a loop. Even after all that I have witnessed during the last half century, I still had a hard time believing there is not a single Southern Baptist left who wants his grandchildren to be White. But "Unanimous" means all of them according to my dictionary.
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    Reverend Luter has built his congregation up to 5,000, but he cheated! He bought pay per view boxing matches and let the local negroes watch for free!

    If the other pastors wold just take a page from the Boss Man's book, they could fill their pews, at least from August through January. All they have to do is change their time from 11am to 1pm and put a couple of dozen TVs on the wall of the church, showing ALL the NFL games.

    In addition to filling the pews, this would relieve every Baptist pastor from his greatest pressure, which is that he must take great care to end the show and get the members out the door by 12:30, so they don't miss the kick-off.
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