Thread: Learning from the Chicago/Tinley Incident

The Chicago MSM coverage (Chicago Tribune, Sun Times) was not completely fair - did smear our side as "White Supremacists", but included giving our side a rebuttal:

Here's an excerpt from May 22nd Tribune report:
""Prosecutors said the targeted diners claimed to be part of an Illinois European heritage association that was affiliated with White News Now and StormFront - websites that tout White supremacy. But, one victim, Beckie ***** told the Tribune the group wasn't racist, calling the accusation "ridiculous".

Jamie and others I have an idea.

Why not do a google search of MSM newspaper articles on this subject that mention White News Now and smear us as "White Supremacists"? Next contact the newspapers and say that the story wasn't accurate and that Whitenewsnow presents positive, law abiding news and information of interest to European Americans and presents positions promoting the legitimate rights of European Americans the same as other ethnic groups.

I did this when I was running the Midwestern NAAWP and the Tribune and the New York Times slander us that some teens in Iowa read our newspaper and then got in to a fight with some Blacks. The Tribune printed my Letter to the Editor on a Sunday and I got many inquiries.

I can assist in this project.

Try to learn more about those in our cause. That's what I'm learning from this. I'm so glad we have some great people in our cause.

I"m getting scared to know ANYONE! Maybe it's just my bad luck but I haven't had great success stories with online contacts. One of the persons arrested in the Tinley Park incident befriended me on another forum. Although he was a perfect gentlemen and very kind when messaging me something about him started to make me shy away from conversing with him. He seemed to want to be vindictive to others and to make problems for others for the most insignificant reasons. I saw this behavior manifest in him a few times. I was afraid the day would come that he would turn on me without cause if I continued to associate with him online. I'm most thankful I made the decision not to expose my full name or location to him.

There are moments with online contacts that I feel there may be wolf at my door and it's better not to open it. On a brighter note WNN seems the mostly friendly and safe at the moment.

Originally Posted by Nordic Angel

I"m getting scared to know ANYONE! Maybe it's just my bad luck but I haven't had great success stories with online contacts. One of the persons arrested in the Tinley Park incident befriended me on another forum. Although he was a perfect gentlemen and very kind when messaging me something about him started to make me shy away from conversing with him. He seemed to want to be vindictive to others and to make problems for others for the most insignificant reasons. I saw this behavior manifest in him a few times. I was afraid the day would come that he would turn on me without cause if I continued to associate with him online. I'm most thankful I made the decision not to expose my full name or location to him.

There are moments with online contacts that I feel there may be wolf at my door and it's better not to open it. On a brighter note WNN seems the mostly friendly and safe at the moment.

Maybe your icon is a bit troublesome as it portrays some super Nordic Angel, a beautiful young Nordic goddess which for all I know you are. This might throw some guys off and cause them to get nervous say or do something wrong. just a thought.

Originally Posted by Instauration Fan

Maybe your icon is a bit troublesome as it portrays some super Nordic Angel, a beautiful young Nordic goddess which for all I know you are. This might throw some guys off and cause them to get nervous say or do something wrong. just a thought.

I thought the image was modest, conservative, and a gentle image for a gentle voice for the thread I started in the children's section. I didn't mean to make anyone nervous. Forgive me.

http://www.whitenewsnow.com/white-kids-corner/31276-white-children-who-inspire-me.html

Well, Nordic Angel - I hope you use your great beauty for good and not to just cause trouble. Look at all the trouble Helen of Troy caused, getting good White Greek men and good White Trojan men to fight and kill each other over her.

:-)

And also be aware that men from other races are going to be "bothering" you and our most beautiful Nordic Angels. OJ Simpson, Tiger Woods, that Arab Playboy son of the owner of Harrods who went for Princess Di, Billy Joel, Peter Bogdotovitch, most of the Jew Hollywood Movie Moguls - they all bother/marry Nordic angels. Look at how ugly Billy Joel and Christie Brinkley's daughter is, that's the sad result when Nordic Angels mate outside or folk. Here's the link to Billy Joel and Christie Brinkley's ugly duckling daughter, she's tried to commit suicide at least once:


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Originally Posted by Instauration Fan

Well, Nordic Angel - I hope you use your great beauty for good and not to just cause trouble. Look at all the trouble Helen of Troy caused, getting good White Greek men and good White Trojan men to fight and kill each other over her.

:-)

Thank you for the advice. Some men don't know how to be responsible for their own actions which is the reason I believe there ended up being a traitor in the Tinley Park group. Innocent people get hurt when men think vengeance or greed are the answer.

I am aware some boys/men lose their minds over a pretty girl. That stupidity started when I was 10. which is why I kind of hang back all the time. My life is more beautiful without the drama.
I need to be treated like a friend...not an object or trophy.

And also be aware that men from other races are going to be "bothering" you and our most beautiful Nordic Angels. OJ Simpson, Tiger Woods, that Arab Playboy son of the owner of Harrods who went for Princess Di, Billy Joel, Peter Bogdotovitch, most of the Jew Hollywood Movie Moguls - they all bother/marry Nordic angels.

When I was 15 I lived in an all white upper class neighborhood. I would walk home from school each afternoon. I did not realize it at the moment but a very large black man had watched and followed me. One afternoon when I came home he was hiding in my bedroom. From the second I saw him coming at me like a wild animal hunting prey I fought him with a strength and fury I did not know existed in me. I'm sure the Adrenalin rush helped. I had to crash through a glass window to get out of there but I did escape with only minor bruises, carpet burns, glass lacerations....and a chunk of hair missing off the back of my head that came off when I literally tore myself from the clutches of the black man. On the bright side I didn't even feel my wounds until about 45 minutes later when I started to calm down. I have a rampant fear of being in the same room as non white men. It's creepy the way they look at me.


Look at how ugly Billy Joel and Christie Brinkley's daughter is, that's the sad result when Nordic Angels mate outside or folk. Here's the link to Billy Joel and Christie Brinkley's ugly duckling daughter, she's tried to commit suicide at least once:


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I'm spoken for by a wonderful pure white Scandinavian male. I am religiously white. I believe I will go to hell for race mixing so it just won't happen. I will never be a "Fallen Angel".
(In my mind it's pure logic. God separated the races and it would be an abomination to corrupt what God created. I know, I know, not politically correct and Theology is not discussed here. So back to Tinley Park....I don't want the icon to derail this important thread....Just a short explanation of where I stand.)

Originally Posted by Nordic Angel

I thought the image was modest, conservative, and a gentle image for a gentle voice for the thread I started in the children's section. I didn't mean to make anyone nervous. Forgive me.

http://www.whitenewsnow.com/white-kids-corner/31276-white-children-who-inspire-me.html

How can beauty ever make a Westerner "nervous" ............. I recall being at the Prado in '80, in the vicinity of a hideous family of NYC khazars, one of whom bawled that a beautiful religious painting by one of Masters made him "nervous" and his loathsome party should move on to the "good modern art" section where some crude "Chagal collection" was being exhibited. That said it all to me!

Originally Posted by Instauration Fan

Well, Nordic Angel - I hope you use your great beauty for good and not to just cause trouble. Look at all the trouble Helen of Troy caused, getting good White Greek men and good White Trojan men to fight and kill each other over her.

:-)

And also be aware that men from other races are going to be "bothering" you and our most beautiful Nordic Angels. OJ Simpson, Tiger Woods, that Arab Playboy son of the owner of Harrods who went for Princess Di, Billy Joel, Peter Bogdotovitch, most of the Jew Hollywood Movie Moguls - they all bother/marry Nordic angels. Look at how ugly Billy Joel and Christie Brinkley's daughter is, that's the sad result when Nordic Angels mate outside or folk. Here's the link to Billy Joel and Christie Brinkley's ugly duckling daughter, she's tried to commit suicide at least once:


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---- and that's after the nose-bobbing plastic surgery!

Originally Posted by 357 Magnum

That was my first thought as well! Still, they had to have a "rat" in the group, since according to the article the person in charge changed the meeting location a few times. I'd be looking at who knew the last location but didn't show up.

Since I wasn't there, I can't be sure, but I heard that the guy who organized it didn't show up.

Originally Posted by Instauration Fan

Well, Nordic Angel - I hope you use your great beauty for good and not to just cause trouble. Look at all the trouble Helen of Troy caused, getting good White Greek men and good White Trojan men to fight and kill each other over her.

:-)

And also be aware that men from other races are going to be "bothering" you and our most beautiful Nordic Angels. OJ Simpson, Tiger Woods, that Arab Playboy son of the owner of Harrods who went for Princess Di, Billy Joel, Peter Bogdotovitch, most of the Jew Hollywood Movie Moguls - they all bother/marry Nordic angels. Look at how ugly Billy Joel and Christie Brinkley's daughter is, that's the sad result when Nordic Angels mate outside or folk. Here's the link to Billy Joel and Christie Brinkley's ugly duckling daughter, she's tried to commit suicide at least once:


Google Image Result for http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.432732!/img/httpImage/image.jpg

Am I the only one who thinks Billy Joel looks like a sex offender version of Mr. Potato Head? Definitely a step waaaay down for Christie Brinkley.

Originally Posted by Black Jack Pershing

Am I the only one who thinks Billy Joel looks like a sex offender version of Mr. Potato Head? Definitely a step waaaay down for Christie Brinkley.

Wiki states that Christie Brinkley has been married and divorced 4 times - at least two of her husbands were Jews. She has 3 known children, two have Jews.

Christie Brinkley has been married four times:

Modeling a dress by Calvin Kleinat the 2005 Red Dress Collection fashion show in New York's Bryant Park.

• In 1973, with French artist Jean-François Allaux (born in Rabat, Morocco) that ended in 1981 without children.^[25]
• In 1985, with musician Billy Joel (born May 9, 1949 in Bronx, New York) that ended in 1994 with one child Alexa Ray Joel.^[29] Brinkley and Joel met in 1983 on the Island of St Barts, in the Caribbean. Joel and Brinkley were married on March 23, 1985 on a yacht on the Hudson River and this was the second marriage for both. Joel was 35 and Brinkley 31 and took their vows in a private ceremony attended by 175 family members and friends, including Paul Simon and the Stray Cats.^[25]
• In 1994 with Real estate developer Richard Taubman (born 1948). Brinkley and Taubman met in 1994 when a mutual friend introduced them. He proposed to her in May 1994 although she and Billy Joel were still married. They were married on December 22, 1994, in Telluride, Colorado near the area where they were both in a helicopter crash in March 1994. Brinkley was 40 years old and Taubman 46 and she announced at their wedding that they were expecting a baby boy. The marriage ended in 1995 with one child, Jack Paris Taubman.^[25]
• In 1996 with Peter Halsey Cook (born January 1, 1959, New Jersey), an architect. Cook and Brinkley first met in 1979 when he was modeling; their paths also crossed a few times after that. They were later reintroduced by a mutual friend,NBC's Jill Rappaport, and announced their engagement in August 1996. They married on September 21, 1996 at a ranch in Bridgehampton, New York. Brinkley was 42 and Cook 37. They had nearly 120 guests at their wedding, including Billy Joel. They had one child, Sailor Brinkley Cook.^[25] They divorced on October 3, 2008.^[30] Brinkley's first lawyer in the case was Robert Wallack, and she was later represented by Robert Stephan Cohen, both top divorce attorneys. The divorce proceedings, held in the summer of 2008, were regular tabloid fodder, in part due to Cook's admission that he had committed adultery with eighteen-year-old Diana Bianchi. Press and public interest increased with Cook's revelations that he had paid a large sum of money to Bianchi in the hopes of forestalling a lawsuit, and had spent thousands of dollars each month on internet pornography.^[31][32] Brinkley and Cook settled out-of-court in July 2008, with Brinkley granting her fourth husband $2.1 million in exchange for custody of their two children and the retention of 18 disputed properties in the Hamptons. Additionally, Cook was granted parenting time with the children. Further details of the settlement were kept private.^[9][33] The children became a focus of public attention when the former model contended that Cook used "overwhelming" physical force when unhappy with or disciplining the children. Alexa Ray Joel, Brinkley's daughter with ex-husband Billy Joel, testified about such behavior toward her, which Cook denied.^[34] Peter Cook wanted a judge to appoint a parenting coordinator, demand Brinkley enroll in anger management classes and order her to cover his legal expenses.^[35] In July 2008, a court-appointed psychiatrist, speaking during child custody proceedings in Brinkley's fourth divorce, testified that while he believed Brinkley should gain custody of her and Cook's children, both she and Cook need therapy.^[36] Her divorce from Peter Cook was officially finalized on October 3, 2008.^[30]

Brinkley has three children:

• Alexa Ray Joel, (born December 29, 1985), with Billy Joel.^[37] The name "Ray" was given to Alexa in honor of Ray Charles.^[38]
• Jack Paris Taubman, (born June 2, 1995), with Richard Taubman. He was later adopted by Peter Cook and named Jack Paris Brinkley Cook.
• Sailor Lee Brinkley Cook (born July 2, 1998), with Peter Cook.

What a mess. I'll comment no further since I don't want to drag this thread any further into hollywierd than it's gone already

Originally Posted by Edmund Ruffin

Since I wasn't there, I can't be sure, but I heard that the guy who organized it didn't show up.

Heard that too. Supposedly this guy is their "Financial Guru" and in charge of their "Business Ventures" and was in route to their meeting in an old, wore out piece of crap when it broke down. Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't necessarily take financial advice from someone who can't attend meetings because of of their inability to afford reliable transportation.

Originally Posted by William Gayley Simpson

Some good Patriots and innocent bystanders were hurt in that attack by the ARA extremists. And we have to reserve our final judgement on everything until it's all worked out. So what can we, as WNN, A3P members, and responsible American Patriots, learn from this incident?

1) Don't get involved with extremists, of either the left or the right variety. Loving your race and nation and wanting to preserve/rebuild it is not extreme. Trying to revive Third Reich leaders is extreme and counterproductive. Normal, patriotic Americans might agree with a few Third Reich policies like crushing Communism, but normal people do not publicly advocate for the Third Reich. Extremists attract counter-extremists.

2) Keep it legal. We have the moral high ground, don't lose it by violating the law. Most police officers will side with you, as the victim of an attack, until they find out you have a criminal record. If you have a serious criminal record, stay home. You are best suited to simple, lone wolf activism, like posting flyers or working hard and anonymously sending contributions to patriot organizations.

3) Avoid the state of Illinois. This is the most unfriendly gun state in the US. Every public meeting should have Patriots LEGALLY carrying concealed weapons to protect ;themselves from the mentally ill ARA/Antifa or from everyday non-White crime.

What else can we learn from this fiasco?

Take note of some things, please:

1. This was a meet-and-greet of people who only knew each other from screen names on web-forums. It was intended to be a regional gathering mostly of Illinoisans, later of midwesterners generally. Screening people wasn't practical given the way the event was arranged.

2. The event was intended to be non-political. The dinner discussion was to be about how to start small businesses. Most of the attendees were in the construction industry, small-time subcontractors and/or day laborers who sometimes get opportunities to form small businesses but who don't always know the legalities. Following the dinner, the plan was to meet up at a local park/forest/cemetary with legends of ghosts--and go ghost-hunting. So this was a purely social event. I have no idea where the talk of "extremism" comes from. The event was an apolitical gathering of Whites who had met on pro-White forums.

3. The meeting was legal. One out-of-state attendee is fighting charges of having a firearm in his vehicle, another reportedly had outstanding sex charges in another state (possibly dismissed since that time). But there was nothing illegal about the meeting.

Originally Posted by William Gayley Simpson

. . . .
None of these guys who were attacked were A3P members, as far as we know . . .

Not accurate. Sorry.

Originally Posted by William Gayley Simpson

Just one more idea that came to mind with Memorial Day this weekend. Were any of our people who got attacked veterans? If so, we need to use that to our advantage. Whoever that veteran might be at the event needs to go find the media and say how he's just a patriotic American doing what's right for the country. That's hard to smear and malign.

There was at least 1 disabled American veteran present.