Thread: Scots About to Gear Up for Break Up with UK? Sean Connery Pushes Scot Independence.....

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Why not? When they gave Kosovo independence--and Kosovo is the heart of Serbia--they made it possible for Scotland, Texas, etc to do the same. Especially, since Scotland is not the heart of England and just as well since Texas is not the heart of USA... There should be no double standards!

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While there might be some benefit to the further devolution of powers to the Scots, or outright Scottish independence, I don't see how a multicultural party like the Scottish National Party is going to save Scotland from demographic genocide. These SNP insiders are largely "civic nationalists" who won't admit that Scotland's greatness is rooted in it's blood. And so many of them are not even civic nationalists - they're simply political opportunists. With all that said, the Scottish independence movement could quite easily become a very useful effort if more racial nationalists get involved.

I totally agree on the degeneracy of the SNP ........ but it's a stepping stone to truly nationalistic parties down the line. I fully realize the enemies of our people try to surrepticiously control all these ethnostatic movements ... just like the States' "Tea Party." Yet, it's a good sign things are "devolving" in the right direction.

Part of me thinks the BNP and every other nationalist effort in Scotland should send in their young recruits to infiltrate the SNP and take it over. It's what the Ron Paul people are doing and it works. Take over the establishment. It doesn't take that many people to take over a county political machine

Originally Posted by FriendofRPO

I totally agree on the degeneracy of the SNP ........ but it's a stepping stone to truly nationalistic parties down the line. I fully realize the enemies of our people try to surrepticiously control all these ethnostatic movements ... just like the States' "Tea Party." Yet, it's a good sign things are "devolving" in the right direction.

Originally Posted by FriendofRPO

Finally a Hollywood doof doin' somethin' right. Thought I'd never live to see it.

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Scots' push for Britain breakup begins in earnest - Yahoo! News

As a descendant of the House of Stuart, I fully support their efforts for the peaceful establishment of an independent Scotland. IN DEFENS

Originally Posted by Tyr

As a descendant of the House of Stuart, I fully support their efforts for the peaceful establishment of an independent Scotland. IN DEFENS

You mean peaceful, like at Bannockburn, listen to my post at #2 above.

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Originally Posted by Iconoclast

You mean peaceful, like at Bannockburn, listen to my post at #2 above.

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more or less...
I mean conventional war within the UK would be catastrophic due to modern military capabilities, but tensions over this could easily cause an IRA type of situation to develop if not properly mediated.

Any form of national independence movement is a good thing, in that it's a slap in the face to the plans of the New World Order that naturally hates any act of nationalism.

This will give the people Scots a real shot in the arm of national pride.

The vast majority of Scottish people are genetically indistinguishable from English and Welsh people. Scotland is not an ethnostate. Almost every real nationalist in Scotland does not support Scottish independence. I think people here have been watching too much Braveheart.

Originally Posted by I Cigitler I

The vast majority of Scottish people are genetically indistinguishable from English and Welsh people. Scotland is not an ethnostate. Almost every real nationalist in Scotland does not support Scottish independence. I think people here have been watching too much Braveheart.

You're right about over-romanticisizng White ethnostatic emergence. The problem is everybody does it ....zionists, Japanese, Zulu, Siamese, Apache, Inuit, etc. So, let these Scots go ahead, just like the Czechs, Catalans, Slovenes, Slovaks, Lapps, Karelians, etc.

BTW, you're dead wrong about the genetic "indistinguishability" ..... as any really competent ethnogeneticist can tell you, although I do agree the admixture has vastly accelerated in the past half century, the subclade haplotypes are quite distinquishable .... although I'll grant you, perhaps not visibly so as far as basic physiogomy is concerned. Geographic Patterns of R1b in the British Isles



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The relatively tiny amount of genetic difference is not enough to justify an independent state. Don't compare Scottish independence to, say, Basque or Catalan independence - because they are totally different situations. The only Scottish people who support Scottish independence are either: Americans of Scottish descent, or Civic Nationalists. I have never seen a true Scottish nationalist support Scottish independence.

Originally Posted by I Cigitler I

The relatively tiny amount of genetic difference is not enough to justify an independent state. Don't compare Scottish independence to, say, Basque or Catalan independence - because they are totally different situations. The only Scottish people who support Scottish independence are either: Americans of Scottish descent, or Civic Nationalists. I have never seen a true Scottish nationalist support Scottish independence.

Although I don't live in bonnie Scotland (do you?), but on on my visits, some of them lengthy ...which admittedly are a bit dated now ..... 1977, 1984, 1989 ........ true Scottish nationalists did seem to support independence .....I remember 1 fellow particularly, in remote Scrabster ...near the Pentland Firth, was quite unyielding about it all. I'm not saying local libtards running the show are necessarily better than faraway ones.......but in principle why wouldn't Scottish Nationalists ...actual ones, not drunken, loud-mouthed yahoos .... want Scottish independence?

Help me understand.

Would an independent Scotland send soldiers to Afghanistan? If Scotland somehow (like Iceland is, apparently, trying to) got untangled from the stranglehold of international high-finance and its rebarbative masters, then wouldn't that be a good thing?

If a free Scotland cleaned out the ghetto-creatures of Glasgow, Aberdeen and Edinburgh and started deporting them ... then wouldn't that be good thing?

All of these things seem much more "doable" to me if Scotland became independent ... like it was long ago.

I fully appreciate the venality of human nature and realize native grafters are inevitable ...and readily understand a free Scotland would be no edenic idyll, but 'cmon, independence would be a good start in the right direction IMHO.

Because Scottish nationalists recognise these facts:

-It is in Scotland's best interests to be in the UK
-Scottish people (especially Lowland Scots) are virtually genetically the same as English people.
-Scottish people are Scottish by nationality, but British by ethnicity.
-If they left the UK they would without a doubt lose Ulster

Originally Posted by I Cigitler I

Because Scottish nationalists recognise these facts:

-It is in Scotland's best interests to be in the UK
-Scottish people (especially Lowland Scots) are virtually genetically the same as English people.
-Scottish people are Scottish by nationality, but British by ethnicity.
-If they left the UK they would without a doubt lose Ulster

Well, I'll let the "British" ethnicity thing slide .... as well as the Scots "losing Ulster" .... but I call you to task to justify your supposition that "It is in Scotland's best interests to be in the UK." It is not in Texas' or Alaska's "best interest" to be in the USA.

It's not in the best interests of the majority White state of Rio Grande do Sul to be part of Brazil.

Why is it so swell for Scotland to be in the UK? .....'Cause Scotland would be hard-pressed to field a nuclear navy? 'Cause more net dole/dough comes from England to Scotland than goes to it from Scotland?

What's the reasoning behind your first premise??????? Inquiring minds want to know!

Originally Posted by FriendofRPO

Well, I'll let the "British" ethnicity thing slide .... as well as the Scots "losing Ulster" .... but I call you to task to justify your supposition that "It is in Scotland's best interests to be in the UK." It is not in Texas' or Alaska's "best interest" to be in the USA.

It's not in the best interests of the majority White state of Rio Grande do Sul to be part of Brazil.

Why is it so swell for Scotland to be in the UK? .....'Cause Scotland would be hard-pressed to field a nuclear navy? 'Cause more net dole/dough comes from England to Scotland than goes to it from Scotland?

What's the reasoning behind your first premise??????? Inquiring minds want to know!

Scotland's economy would collapse if it left the UK. It receives hundreds of billions of pounds every year from England.

Collapse????!!!! You mean everybody suddenly starves to death, electric power stations close, people go back to living in Iron Age huts and start fishing Loch Ness w/ neolithic tools?????

Please ..... that's the same kooky scare-tactic "reasoning" that the khazars used to keep Quebec from becoming its own rightful ethnostate ... and will use against Alaskan, Flemish, Nagaland, Kashmiri and Karelian separatists. ........ and did use against the Slovenes, Uzbekis, Slovaks, Latvians and Croats.

That was also an "argument" floated way back in 1776 when some tax serfs decided to revolt in certain N. American colonies ....and later, S. American colonies.

I'd REALLY like you to present at least some facts beyond such bald conclusions.

The welfare state is gonna collapse anyway ...I don't really see that as all that bad. Wouldn't an independent Scotland get at least some of that North Sea oil?

Look, I'm not trying to be a pest .... I just don't understand these dire pronouncements. What's the basis for the collapse? Indeed, precisely what kind of "collapse" are we talkin' about?

However having our government run by a crazy foreign power, which does not seen to care in the slightest what their policies do to our country, could well cause or aggravate any crises which might occur! Therefor a sudden collapse is much more likely than it would otherwise be. War with Iran may well mean one third of all oil production would be cut off for an unknown period of time, for example.

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