Thread: Shooting in Arizona Leaves 5 Dead

J.T. Ready

Originally Posted by Poor Richard

If White Americans were invading Mexico, which side would the Loony Leftists be on then?

Do Mexican citizens have a right to defend Mexico?

Do American Citizens have a Right to defend America?

Look at the Liberal Marxists' comments on the Mexican-American war and you'll get a pretty good idea about whose side they're on. 150 years ago the Americans "stole Mexican land", but now that Mexicans are invading America everything's alright. And never mind the fact that they're not nearly stopping at the territories they lost 150 years ago, they're going EVERYWHERE in America (this proves that the South-West is nothing more than a pretext, they're all in it for the power and the money).

These traitors have a very two-sided idea of what is moral; it's effectively anything that is anti-White, while anything that is White is by default evil. The irony in this is that the tolerance they demand only exists because of White complacency; these traitors truly want to bite the hand that feeds them.

23 Murdered and Decapitated in Nuevo Laredo

Originally Posted by Tom Smith

This just in from VT. I can't find any other sources reporting or verifying this.

Moments ago, the FBI task force investigating the murder of J.T. Ready admitted that all exiting stories released by local police and news are totally false. Here is the gist of their statement.


“J.T. Ready arrived home to find multiple armed gunmen inside. He was shot down and killed while defending friends and family. Reports of a domestic assault or suicide are utterly false. A 17 year old girl witnessed the shooting, multiple shooters with assault rifles searched the home for Ready. The girl, daughter of Ready’s fiance, a Ms. Moderno, has been sequestered by federal marshals.

She had spent an hour and a half hiding under the bed, waiting for police who eventually responded to automatic weapons fire.

Ready has been the subject of multiple death threats from both cartel members and from the Hells Angels criminal organization whose “meth” network well as local law enforcement within Pinal County ,the area Ready’s organization, The US Border Guard had damaged.”

The only publication to have the story right, there on the spot from the first moments, is” Veterans Today”.

Eye-witness testimony discloses that both the sole survivor of the massacre and neighbors saw other men at the crime scene. The sole survivor disclosed that other men were in the house and that JT Ready was defending his home and family from a violent home invasion. The neighbors confirmed that 2 carloads of armed men left the scene before the Gilbert Police arrived.

Exclusive: Arizona – Two Carloads of Shooters Escape, Survivor Witness Found, Martial Law Declared | Veterans Today

Right. Now, this seems the more likely scenario. Hopefully the story will be corroborated by a credible source. Thanks for posting.

Originally Posted by Poor Richard

According to the Feds, one of Bill Clinton's associates, shot himself, with the wrong hand, bled out dead, then walked to a public park, leaving the handgun behind, which was never found.

No evidence has been presented. Accept NOTHING until evidence is presented, then question the evidence.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I am more than willing to wait for new evidence. At the same time those who are promoting the scenario that the murders were in fact committed by (fill in the blank) need to shoulder the burden of going foward since this discussion is not being held in a courtroom.

Additional evidence is welcomed. At this point we have one column by Mike Harris who quotes anonymous sources saying two car loads of armed men were seen leaving the murder scene and that Ready was possibly an FBI informant. I am willing to question this evidence in addition to the official police report. Are you?

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/...ESTIGATION.pdf

Search warrant and report

Read page 14 especially,

What about the visitor and other vehicles?

Originally Posted by European American

There aren't any indications to justify pointing fingers at some sort of government conspiracy. Let's at least admit it's possible this happened exactly the way the police and media say it happened.

I met J T at a political event in Arizona in 2006. I didn't know who he was at the time, but he seemed well liked by many in attendance. I was told by the event organizer that Mr. Ready had some connections with some mainstream anti-immigration groups and was running for the Mesa City Council.

Here's a video from 2007, showing J T Ready's positive activism and mainstream acceptability.

Not long after this speech, Mr. Ready became publicly involved with neo-Nazis. I remember removing myself from his e-mail list (which I never even asked to be part of) after he was complaining that a local nationalist group refused to allow him to display swastika flags and a picture of Hitler at their outdoor festival. His 180 degree turn from being involved with respectable groups trying to do something about immigration to joining in ruinous George Lincoln Rockwell styled street theatrics surprised me. I wrote him off as someone with impaired judgment.

Some have said that J T was "taken out" because he had enemies in high places, but it appears the worst enemy Mr. Ready had was himself. Ready was no threat to the Federal government and not even to his local "political opponents". It was true that he had filed to run for Sheriff of Pinal County, but nobody important seemed to take him seriously. He wasn't known as a great organizer or grassroots political leader, but he was known as a local extremist.

Extremists doing extreme things isn't surprising. Since it's likely this case is exactly what it appears to be, let's not join an irrational chorus and declare J T Ready a victim of assassination. Based on statements from those who knew him, and on his own writings, it's fair to say he was troubled. And if he's guilty of the killings, it's obvious he was deeply troubled.

Open borders advocates will attempt to use this tragedy as a way of tarring responsible patriots with guilt by association. Like the far left, J T Ready inflated his importance to the anti-immigration movement. We're not going to fall into a trap by doing the same thing.

Jim Gilchrist, President of the Minuteman Project, made the following statement earlier today.

J T Ready was a lone ranger in his participation in the enforcement of U.S. immigration laws.


From my recollection, he was not a member of Chris Simcox’s Minuteman Civil Defense Corps(MCDC) (now defunct). I was told by two MCDC leaders that he tried to infiltrate that organization, but was expelled when he showed up at one of its border observation outposts back in April of 2005.


I agree with the Gilbert, Az. police investigators that this tragic incident was a case of domestic violence and not at all related to immigration law enforcement activism, or a conspiracy by any pro immigrant adversaries J T Ready may have had.

European American, you hit the nail on the head!

J T Ready wasn't nearly important enough to be framed by some agency like this, especially to the point of murdering a toddler to ruin him. The more I read about him, the more it looks like he was driven by his own ego, and it looks like it drove him right over the edge.

The simplest answer is usually the correct one. WNN is a place for common sense thinking and actions.

"There aren't any indications to justify pointing fingers at some sort of government conspiracy. Let's at least admit it's possible this happened exactly the way the police and media say it happened."

Just the fact that the Feds are reported by knowledgeable lawyers to use perjured testimony, or otherwise cheat in every Federal trial; and also, Wako, Ruby Ridge, 911, etc. etc.

Iconoclast

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

Just the fact that the Feds are reported by knowledgeable lawyers to use perjured testimony, or otherwise cheat in every Federal trial; and also, Wako, Ruby Ridge, 911, etc. etc.

As true as that may be, my statement remains valid. As yet, there are no indications to support conspiracy theories and to suggest there are such makes one look silly. That people can't even agree on which conspiracy is correct should tell you to avoid fantastic indulgence. It's simply unproductive and harmful.

If we want to talk about facts and evidence, I'm still waiting to see some.

Originally Posted by European American

As true as that may be, my statement remains valid. As yet, there are no indications to support conspiracy theories and to suggest there are such makes one look silly. That people can't even agree on which conspiracy is correct should tell you to avoid fantastic indulgence. It's simply unproductive and harmful.

If we want to talk about facts and evidence, I'm still waiting to see some.

The indication is that a prominent Patriot and family is dead!! Just that fact alone, makes Federal foul play at least 80% probable!

Iconoclast

Has there been any word in the media from Brittany Mederos yet?

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

The indication is that a prominent Patriot and family is dead!! Just that fact alone, makes Federal foul play at least 80% probable!

Iconoclast

I wholeheartedly agree, this man was out there, working hard to defend the border against hordes of Mexican invaders, and was running for sheriff in his country. That it was an actual US-engineered assassination or a Mexican gang hit job are very real possibilities, and the usual media circus around this thing (neo-nazi, White supremacist, the usual epithets) just confirms suspicions.

That said, there are weird elements. I've heard rumors that some of the folks in that house weren't White, I don't know whether true or not. I know he used to be NSM, which is not exactly an environment of excellence in White Nationalism, but then again he left those people... I've seen pictures of the guy with non-Whites...



I don't know. Only a few weeks ago I read a thread of his on Stormfront which was about National-Socialism, adapted to the United States, he was fully rational and defending his ideas with class. NOT someone you'd think was going to go on a murder-suicide rampage a mere three weeks later... At this point I'm not discounting anything, and I won't throw his reputation to the wolves until I know for sure that he actually committed this crime.

J.T. Ready

Originally Posted by Daniel Boone of Kentucky

European American, you hit the nail on the head!

J T Ready wasn't nearly important enough to be framed by some agency like this, especially to the point of murdering a toddler to ruin him. The more I read about him, the more it looks like he was driven by his own ego, and it looks like it drove him right over the edge.

The simplest answer is usually the correct one. WNN is a place for common sense thinking and actions.

The Federal Government apparently murdered Women and Children in OKC, just to distract from the Waco Investigation. There is a rumor that the Waco Investigation Evidence was destroyed in the OKC bombing.

By coincidence, the Federal Financial Scandal Evidence was destroyed in the Building 7 Bombing, and the Evidence of the missing Two Trillion Dollars was destroyed in the Pentagon Bombing.

It is amazing how much evidence that is in Federal Hands gets destroyed.

Originally Posted by Poor Richard

The Federal Government apparently murdered Women and Children in OKC, just to distract from the Waco Investigation. There is a rumor that the Waco Investigation Evidence was destroyed in the OKC bombing.

By coincidence, the Federal Financial Scandal Evidence was destroyed in the Building 7 Bombing, and the Evidence of the missing Two Trillion Dollars was destroyed in the Pentagon Bombing.

It is amazing how much evidence that is in Federal Hands gets destroyed.

It's indeed quite impressive how federal evidence is always in the wrong spot at the wrong time...

Originally Posted by WhiteHeather

Has there been any word in the media from Brittany Mederos yet?

There was a memorial....no mention of her at all. You have to wonder don't ya?

Border Guard Preparing?

Assassination?