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    U.S.-Israel tensions on Iran flare ahead of Netanyahu visit

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    President Obama met with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu in May 2011. (Charles Dharapak/AP)The Obama White House vigorously defended its tough policy toward Iran Wednesday, saying it saw no need to issue more hawkish threats when the President addresses the pro-Israel lobby group AIPAC this weekend and meets with visiting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House Monday.

    "We are committed, as Israel is, to preventing Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon," White House spokesman Jay Carney told journalists at the White House press briefing Wednesday.

    "We do, however, believe that there is time and space to pursue diplomacy," he continued. "And we believe that the policy that we have pursued with our partners has put unprecedented pressure on Tehran, on the regime, has put great strains on the Iranian economy, great strains on the Iranian political leadership, and that is a course that we will continue to pursue."
    The administration's Iran strategy is aimed at "buying time and continuing to move this problem into the future, and if you can do that -- strange things can happen in the interim," Tony Blinken, national security advisor to Vice President Joe Biden, told the Israel Policy Forum in New York Tuesday, Haaretz reported. "You never know."

    The remarks come at a tense moment in ongoing consultations between the two close allies about the timeline for pressuring Iran to curb its nuclear program. Israel has repeatedly asserted that it reserves the right to strike Iran's nuclear facilities -- if need be, without approval from, or advance warning to, the United States to protect the tens of thousands of U.S. personnel and assets in the region that could be targeted in revenge attacks.

    The Obama administration counters that it has led a broad international coalition to pressure Iran with unprecedented economic sanctions, which it believes shows possible signs of yielding results. The administration noted that Tehran this month expressed readiness to return to the negotiating table -- an offer the international community has not yet formally responded to but seems likely to accept. (The Treasury Department on Thursday announced yet new sanctions targeting a Dubai bank it said has served as a chief vehicle for Iran to evade sanctions.)

    In advance of the Netanyahu delegation's arrival in Washington, however, the United States and Israel have traded a flurry of messages through the press, lawmakers and private senior diplomatic channels seeking to shape expectations for the visit and gin up pressure to each side's advantage.

    A delegation of mostly Republican lawmakers led by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) met last week with Netanyahu in Israel. The Israeli leader complained about top U.S. military officer Gen. Martin Dempsey commenting to CNN last week that military strikes on Iran would be premature, and assessing that the Iran regime is a rational actor. (Notably, Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak similarly described Iranian leaders as "radicals but not total meshuginah," in a 2010 speech to the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (.pdf), using the Yiddush word for "crazy.")

    Sen. McCain and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), however, this week echoed the Israeli leader's criticism, saying Dempsey's comments cautioning against military strikes only embolden Iran. "The Israelis are unnerved," Graham told the Wall Street Journal Tuesday. "They think the administration is sending the wrong signal, and I do too."

    Biden's advisor Blinken alluded to the seemingly coordinated echo chamber effect of some of the election year criticism of the U.S. administration as insufficiently hawkish on Iran. But he suggested that Israel's leaders may want to consider the odds that they will be dealing with the Obama-Biden administration after the presidential elections next year.
    "There are individuals on all sides who unfortunately use the debate over policy toward Israel for political purposes," he told the Israel Policy Forum.

    A new poll released Thursday of Israeli public opinion found that only 19% of Israelis support Israel carrying out a strike on Iran without U.S. support. The poll, conducted by Shibley Telhami, of the Brookings Institution and University of Maryland, found that 42% endorsed a strike only if there is at least American support. A third of Israelis--32%--opposed an attack altogether regardless of American support.

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    Israel has no influence on matters involving American foreign policy.

    (That's what they would like everyone to believe.)
    The Fable of the Ducks & the Hens by George Rockwell
    “There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root…”
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    Considering they donate more than half the funding for the Presidential election, it seems they're buying the election.

    If less money was donated, then the campaigns would have to be less well funded.

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    the world plague funds both parties and all political ideologies . all bases are covered. you never know who may win.

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    All should have noticed Netanyahu's free and copious use of the term "the alliance between the U.S. and Israel" as well as the continual use of the term "our ally Israel" by the Zionist prostituted commentators of Fox News, Sean Hannity in particular.
    The fact is,
    There is no treaty between the U.S. and Israel constituting an "alliance" and compelling the U.S. to aid Israel either materially or with troops in the event of a conflict between that rogue state and it's neighbors!

    The use of the term "ally" is one of the latest propaganda schemes by Khazar/Zionists and their media minions to instill in the minds of the sheeple that the U.S. has a legal and moral obligation to be actively complicit in any Israeli aggression against it's neighbors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki-Utah View Post
    All should have noticed Netanyahu's free and copious use of the term "the alliance between the U.S. and Israel" as well as the continual use of the term "our ally Israel" by the Zionist prostituted commentators of Fox News, Sean Hannity in particular.
    The fact is,
    There is no treaty between the U.S. and Israel constituting an "alliance" and compelling the U.S. to aid Israel either materially or with troops in the event of a conflict between that rogue state and it's neighbors!

    The use of the term "ally" is one of the latest propaganda schemes by Khazar/Zionists and their media minions to instill in the minds of the sheeple that the U.S. has a legal and moral obligation to be actively complicit in any Israeli aggression against it's neighbors.

    Very True.. Did you happen to count the number of times netanyahu used the term"Sovereign right" for israel to determine its destiny ,ad nauseum .?

    in his B.S. to the press?

    It reminded me of what iv'e been seeing and hearing on many of calif university system campuses. especially sta. barbara, sta. cruz ,davis ..

    the students and others are forming study groups that question israel's legitimacy .
    just as many church groups are now seeing israel in a new light;that of a moral disaster.

    this small but significant groundswell is more a threat to israel than iran .. the questioning of the very legitimacy of a nation undermines its status among the nations of the world and this movement is spreading all across europe as well.

    the aim of these groups is to boycott israel, any and every way possible.

    a war with iran ,one that would require international cooperation with israel would regain the lost sense of legitimacy israel is feeling. and its sense of isolation in the world.what doya think?

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    His country should exercise it's "sovereign rights" without billions of extorted U.S. aid, German reparations, free munitions and hardware, espionage against the U.S. for military and industrial secrets to purloin and re-sell for profit to anyone regardless of allegiance with or against the U.S., and relying on the 'bully tactic' of threatening it's neighbors with the 'special relationship' with the U.S. and it's military prowess!

    His country is about as 'sovereign' as a welfare client or thief. Period.

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    At what point does our acts of trying to prevent Iran from exercising it's sovereign right to have Nuclear Power, become acts of war in and of themselves?

    Obama keeps saying that the U.S. won't allow Iran to have nuclear weapons, but if the truth is known, this threat includes nuclear power as well, which the Iranians are definitely going to pursue.

    The only way out of this 'Mexican Stand off' is for Iran to freely, and very openly, allow nuclear inspectors to come in and be able to go where ever they want too. If not, war is inevitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesinUSA View Post
    At what point does our acts of trying to prevent Iran from exercising it's sovereign right to have Nuclear Power, become acts of war in and of themselves?

    Obama keeps saying that the U.S. won't allow Iran to have nuclear weapons, but if the truth is known, this threat includes nuclear power as well, which the Iranians are definitely going to pursue.

    The only way out of this 'Mexican Stand off' is for Iran to freely, and very openly, allow nuclear inspectors to come in and be able to go where ever they want too. If not, war is inevitable.
    What the E.U. and the israeli blackmailed coalition of craven worms want iran to do is to enter a victor's tribunal whereby their best weapons are checked in at the door, and the terms of surrender are discussed. while all the other peacemongers get to keep their own right by their sides. no nation will do that.

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