Thread: High court torn over law banning lies about medals

Heh,heh ...since most modern wars are rationalized and sold to the bovine idiots through a variety of lies (Iraq had WMD, evil Spaniards blew up the USS Maine; Noriega just a big drug kingpin; Taliban Afghanistan a "monstrous" threat to the old USA and every man, woman and child;Tonkin fake "outrage" must be avenged; Poor civilians aboard the "mere passenger ship" Lusitania murdered by German u-boat pirates; japs "snuck" attacked us at Pearl; Grenada a terrible threat, yak, yak, yak .....Iran "biggest Danger to America since 1776" .... since the wars themselves are nothing but lies what difference does it really make!!!!?????

On second thought, how about prosecuting the liars that got us into the wars in the first place?

I do agree that it would be nice Friend to prosecute the people starting the wars with lies but they never stood on a battlefeild or was never in any real danger themselves the people who did deserve to be on a higher level in humanity. The people who followed the lies into battle did it with out question to protect you me all of us as volunteers . What they earned as a result is something very special that sets them apart for other people. That is sacred to those in the brotherhood of the military. It stands far from people that claim they graduated collage, high school or are Dr.s ,lawyers ect to impress. Those are mere intelectual lies that never meant they but their lives on the line for the greater good. Im not saying it wouldnt piss of people that did and those jobs off or they are easy but being willing to die for all the strangers in the US out of selfless honor is the ultimate patriot. I served 10 years and although I dont have many awards or metals what I have I just like others earned with blood sweat and tears. The Stolen Valor Act is something that should be upheld by all courts regaurdless of Freedom of Speech or anything else because it was these people who really won the awards who gave us that freedom! People falsely claiming to be war heros are just a sad bunch of losers that would have never made it into the real brotherhood on the highest eschelon of service. It may be a waste of time and money to lock them up but I say since they claim to be so good throw on the feild in combat and let their real colors shine!!!

As a veteran, initially I thought that there should be a law concerning those who lie about such awards, but on second thought, if there's a possibility that such a law could be a slippery sloop toward suppressing free speech, I suppose that passing such a law wouldn't be such a good idea.

This, and the fact, that most people aren't going to lie about something like that anyway, and if they did, most of them would only be hurting themselves once people found out. about it.

I have a tendency to think that medals today are pretty much handed out like candy anyway in order to keep moral up in these unnecessary wars that as FriendofRPO mentioned in his post, are based on lies as well!

I do agree medals today are given in some less than earned way. The battle feilds of today have changed from the blood soaked lands of the past. Not to many have the need to charge bunkers or machine gun nest today because we can simply point and shoot from long range with deadly accuracy. Of course the elite teams still do and earn their awards just as the Veterans of the past and believe me I owe you all tons and have all the respect in the world for you. If not for the warriors of the past I could not have served my time. Thanks to all Vets before me. Now still to me I cant stand the fact these people would lie about this. With all I done and what little I have in awards to me my Airborne badge is the one Im most proud of maybe silly to some but I really had to earn it. I had already suffered a Tramatic Brain Injury, Left Femur nailing, and wedged spinal disks before I ever went to Ft Benning to the 501st. It was hard for heathy people but for me extra rough. Thousands try and fail every year. It is in its own right an elite group in the military because not everyone gets the chance and alot just cant do it. I worked harder for that damn badge than any thing else I earned to prove to my brothers and myself my worth. To see some lying ass who couldnt carry my nut sweat walking around with that and other ribbons just needs to be beaten. I can also say with much confidence Im sure all the people who won much higher awards than me really risking their lives would feel the same. Thats why this needs to be protected because of them we have our America today. There should be some kind of punishment involved hell make them do community service at a VA Hospital or a Veterans lodge to get the their true shame in reality.

Originally Posted by Mountain Man

I do agree medals today are given in some less than earned way. The battle Fields of today have changed from the blood soaked lands of the past. Not to many have the need to charge bunkers or machine gun nest today because we can simply point and shoot from long range with deadly accuracy. Of course the elite teams still do and earn their awards just as the Veterans of the past and believe me I owe you all tons and have all the respect in the world for you. If not for the warriors of the past I could not have served my time. Thanks to all Vets before me. Now still to me I cant stand the fact these people would lie about this. With all I done and what little I have in awards to me my Airborne badge is the one I'm most proud of maybe silly to some but I really had to earn it. I had already suffered a Tramatic Brain Injury, Left Femur nailing, and wedged spinal disks before I ever went to Ft Benning to the 501st. It was hard for heathy people but for me extra rough. Thousands try and fail every year. It is in its own right an elite group in the military because not everyone gets the chance and alot just cant do it. I worked harder for that damn badge than any thing else I earned to prove to my brothers and myself my worth. To see some lying ass who couldnt carry my nut sweat walking around with that and other ribbons just needs to be beaten. I can also say with much confidence Im sure all the people who won much higher awards than me really risking their lives would feel the same. Thats why this needs to be protected because of them we have our America today. There should be some kind of punishment involved hell make them do community service at a VA Hospital or a Veterans lodge to get the their true shame in reality.

As a fellow veteran I respect your military accomplishments Mountain Man. Many folks don't realize the often real hardships that many of our people in the military has to go through, regardless of actual war, but just in training, that can often be very dangerous, especially in Airborne units.

Most of the scumbags who would resort to boasting or bragging about earning awards that they didn't, are generally sad losers, who in the greater configuration of things doesn't matter one way or the other anyway, and if they get-off in fooling people about something like this, they're pretty sad indeed, because they're certainly not fooling themselves.

Now in the case of a political candidate for example, who would stoop to claiming that they had earned a medal for example, generally, if they should move up the political ladder as a result of such a claim, are going to be checked-out at some point in time by their opponents, and they're going to pay the price for their lies in losing their political careers, often friends, as well as in having to face a great deal of embarrassment

All things considered, I think that these losers usually end up punishing themselves, without giving the Feds any more power over people through creating more laws. But, this is just my opinion.