Thread: Strange Tales of the Holocaust, II

Just an update on Thomas Blatt's sad tale.

Thomas tells us the evil nazis would torture the Jews by having rats eat them alive.


I guess the nazis had nothing better to do during the war than to round up jews, train them all over Europe, medicate them and feed them mice, and then let the rats eat them one at a time.

http://www.theadobepress.com/article...ews/news03.txt

Yitzchak Ganon's hoaxacaust tale - Kidney removed without anaesthetic at Auschwitz, last seen "pulsating in the hand of Dr. Mengele"

Yitzhak Ganon was taken to the Auschwitz-Birkenau hospital, where Josef Mengele, the so-called "Angel of Death," conducted grisly experiments on Jewish prisoners.

Ganon had to lie down on a table and was tied down.Without any anesthetics,Mengele cut him open and removed his kidney. "I saw the kidney pulsing in his hand and cried like a crazy man," Ganon says. "I screamed the 'Shema Yisrael.' I begged for death, to stop the suffering."


After the "operation," he had to work in the Auschwitz sewing room without painkillers. Among other things, he had to clean bloody medical instruments. Once, he had to spend the whole night in a bath of ice-cold water because Mengele wanted to "test" his lung function. Altogether, Ganon spent six and a half months in the concentration camp's hospital.


When they had no more use for him, the Nazis sent him to the gas chamber.

He survived only by chance: The gas chamber held only 200 people. Ganon was number 201.


http://www.spiegel.de/international/...666327,00.html

Originally Posted by Robertvincent

Yitzchak Ganon's hoaxacaust tale - Kidney removed without anaesthetic at Auschwitz, last seen "pulsating in the hand of Dr. Mengele"

Yitzhak Ganon was taken to the Auschwitz-Birkenau hospital, where Josef Mengele, the so-called "Angel of Death," conducted grisly experiments on Jewish prisoners.

Ganon had to lie down on a table and was tied down.Without any anesthetics,Mengele cut him open and removed his kidney. "I saw the kidney pulsing in his hand and cried like a crazy man," Ganon says. "I screamed the 'Shema Yisrael.' I begged for death, to stop the suffering."


After the "operation," he had to work in the Auschwitz sewing room without painkillers. Among other things, he had to clean bloody medical instruments. Once, he had to spend the whole night in a bath of ice-cold water because Mengele wanted to "test" his lung function. Altogether, Ganon spent six and a half months in the concentration camp's hospital.


When they had no more use for him, the Nazis sent him to the gas chamber.

He survived only by chance: The gas chamber held only 200 people. Ganon was number 201.


http://www.spiegel.de/international/...666327,00.html

Here are the survival times for humans in water, from the University of Minnesota:

32.5° 0.3° < 15 minutes 45 minutes

32.5–40° 0.3–4.4° 15 – 30 minutes 30 – 90 minutes

40–50° 3.3–10° 30 – 60 minutes 1 – 3 hours

50–60° 10–15.6° 1 – 2 hours 1 – 6 hours
60–70° 15.6–21.1° 2 – 7 hours 2 – 40 hours
70–80° 21.1–26.7° 3 – 12 hours 3 hours – indefinite >
80° > 26.7° Indefinite Indefinite http://www.seagrant.umn.edu/coastal_...es/hypothermia


When he says “Ice cold,” he surely means below 40 degrees. According to the table, he would have been unconscious in less than half an hour, and dead in an hour and a half. But he says he spent the entire night in that cold water and was none the worse for it. If it weren’t against the law in a dozen free countries, I’d be tempted to call Yitzchak a liar!

1941: Nazis killed people by pumping gas into their rectums

Published in 1941, but written before the Soviets invaded
Poland, The Nazi New Order In Poland by Jon Evans...



Was published by British Jew Victor Gollancz, who predicted in 1942
that 6,000,000 Jews would be killed, and published in 1936
The Yellow Spot: The Extermination of the JEWS in Germany



The Nazi New Order in Poland (1941) Jon Evans page 65

Anthony Acevedo is retired US serviceman, who was captured and held as a Prisoner of War by the Germans

He's not a Jew, but he's elbowed himself in to the Hollow-Caustic racquet, acquiring quasi-survivor status, as the Nazis picked on him because he looks and sounds like a Jew!

He has ho£ocau$t tales which would make Elie Wiesel proud:

He saw the human-skin lampshades.

If any one attempted to escape, the Nazis used wooden bullets to "to shatter the inside of their brains" and then the Nazi medics were "asked to fill the execution holes with wax"

On a trip to Buchenwald, he thought he was going to be gassed, but miraculously he was only made to take a shower.

Although he was held at Buchenwald subcamp Berga, he was still force on a "death march of 217 miles (349 kilometers) that would last three weeks" and kill 135 US soldiers. He doesn't mention where he was death marched to.

He wanted to perform a tracheotomy using his diary pen on his friend, but the Nazis wouldn't let him, so his friend died.

Rat n' Cat Soup with Sawdust Bread

"The U.S. prisoners, Acevedo says, were given 100 grams of bread per week made of redwood sawdust, ground glass and barley.

Soup was made from cats and rats, he says. Eating dandelion leaves was considered a "gourmet meal.""

Acevedo says the world must never forget the atrocities of World War II and that for killing 6 million Jews, Hitler was the worst terrorist of all time."

"I'll never forget," he says.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/1...pow/index.html

Yehiel De-Nur was a Polish Jew who survived 2 years in Auschwitz

In his book Shivitti: A Vision, he recounts a horrifying story of how
the Nazis covered a Dutch Jew known as "Baby" in marmalade,
who was then eaten alive by 1000 Auschwizters

"Then came the big event, the day of the Auschwitz freak show. The chief, Franzl, showed off Baby, his main attraction, to the block master, who thought of a plan for a good laugh. The inmates were all ordered to the parade ground and commanded to form a circle around Baby, would stood dead centre. In an orderly's hand was the bowl containing the weekly ration of marmalade—enough for one blob of marmalade to be spread—today's the day!—on each inmate's bread ration. The block master helped himself to the jar and then dumped its entire contents over Baby's scab-covered skull. he and the chief were in stitches. Ach, Gott, what a circus! Then the master asked one thousand prisoners how they'd like a lick of marmalade.

Inmates all over Baby. A voracious multitude, limbs tangling, arms and legs flailing, biting and being bitten in a mass frenzy. The two German spectators were convulsed with laughter. Later, on the deserted parade fround, only a chewed carcass remained, gnawed as if by a horde of famished rats. The orderlies dragged the bleeding blob behind the barracks. And so, atop the pile of corpses, Lay Zizi's dream-Zizi who kept vigil in Rotterdam for her handsome lover."

SHIVITTI: A VISION - PAGE 52

Originally Posted by Robertvincent

Yehiel De-Nur was a Polish Jew who survived 2 years in Auschwitz

In his book Shivitti: A Vision, he recounts a horrifying story of how
the Nazis covered a Dutch Jew known as "Baby" in marmalade,
who was then eaten alive by 1000 Auschwizters

"Then came the big event, the day of the Auschwitz freak show. The chief, Franzl, showed off Baby, his main attraction, to the block master, who thought of a plan for a good laugh. The inmates were all ordered to the parade ground and commanded to form a circle around Baby, would stood dead centre. In an orderly's hand was the bowl containing the weekly ration of marmalade—enough for one blob of marmalade to be spread—today's the day!—on each inmate's bread ration. The block master helped himself to the jar and then dumped its entire contents over Baby's scab-covered skull. he and the chief were in stitches. Ach, Gott, what a circus! Then the master asked one thousand prisoners how they'd like a lick of marmalade.

Inmates all over Baby. A voracious multitude, limbs tangling, arms and legs flailing, biting and being bitten in a mass frenzy. The two German spectators were convulsed with laughter. Later, on the deserted parade fround, only a chewed carcass remained, gnawed as if by a horde of famished rats. The orderlies dragged the bleeding blob behind the barracks. And so, atop the pile of corpses, Lay Zizi's dream-Zizi who kept vigil in Rotterdam for her handsome lover."

SHIVITTI: A VISION - PAGE 52

OK, you win. The best I can do is the Ash Commander, and the guy dressed in a devil's costume with a hook on his hand who would force the Jews to make up songs on their way to work.

I'm afraid Robert may have come up with the holotale of all time. How can you top this one?

"A Holocaust Tale Beyond Tasteless" and why Yad Vashem and the national Holohoax Memorial Museum don't accept lampshades for exhibition. http://www.jewishworldreview.com/peo...tasteless.php3

I'm still trying to figure out the point of this book review of a really creepy and lame fiction, besides that idiots should "remain silent" and not fabricate sensational and wild holohoax yarns that reflect badly on the tribe when they are debunked, but the pronouncement that the cells of the putative "human skin" lampshade were "too degraded" to determine if the supposed former skin-owner was of European origin, is absolutely preposterous.

Originally Posted by JohnRossTaylor

I'm afraid Robert may have come up with the holotale of all time. How can you top this one?

Let us ask for the help of the Grand Master in holostories ...

This the affidavit of Regina Bialek on how she was a bit gassed at Auschwitz. The affidavit was prepared for the Belsen Trial of 45 former SS members and concentration camp functionaries.


"There were seven gas chambers at Auschwitz.

This particular one was underground and the lorry was able to run down the slope and straight into the chamber.

Here we were tipped unceremoniously on the floor.

The room was about 12 yards square and small lights on the wall dimly illuminated it. When the room was full a hissing sound was heard coming from the centre point on the floor and gas came into the room.

After what seemed about ten minutes some of the victims began to bite their hands and foam at the mouth, and blood issued from their ears, eyes and mouth, and their faces went blue.

I suffered from all these symptoms, together with a tight feeling at the throat.

I was half conscious when my number was called out by Dr. Mengele.

and I was led from the chamber."


http://www.bergenbelsen.co.uk/pages/...03_Bialek.html

Jew Gisella Burke was forced by the Nazis to wash herself with soap made from humans, so she told the NY Daily News in 2008:

"For months and months at the camp, I hear beating and yelling.

I see children's shoes and children's clothing everywhere," she said.

"We had soap made of humans. I felt, 'I'm dead. And everyone in my family thinks I'm dead.'"

New York Daily News

Frida Herskovits was a Czech Jew who survived Auschwitz.

Where she saw a German shepherd tear a baby from it's mother's womb, where anyone who was sick (apart from Elie Wiesel and his father obviously) had gasoline poured over them in a pit and was burned.

"There were even experimental surgeries in which organs were removed
and human skin was used to make lampshades and picture frames."

source

I have at my fingertips 125 fresh "Tales of the Holocaust" which were hitherto beyond my reach. I finally located and bought a copy of the now very rare book, "Inside the Concentration Camps," by Eugene Aroneanu. I will share the cream of this new crop with readers here in coming days.

Even though I have read only the Preface, this book shows great promise as a source for "Tales." In the Preface, the translator says:

"The last thing the Germans wanted to leave behind was an eyewitness."

Knowing as we do that the Germans kept hundreds of thousands of prisoners alive, who were starving and sick due to the breakdown of German transport, and knowing the lengths to which the Germans went to keep Elie Weasel and a couple of thousand other Auschwitz internees alive to tell us their Tales, we can expect great things from a book that starts off with

"The last thing the Germans wanted to leave behind was an eyewitness."

To further titillate our interest, he assures us in the Preface that

"They seldom exaggerate."

Originally Posted by Edmund Ruffin

I have at my fingertips 125 fresh "Tales of the Holocaust" which were hitherto beyond my reach. I finally located and bought a copy of the now very rare book, "Inside the Concentration Camps," by Eugene Aroneanu. I will share the cream of this new crop with readers here in coming days.

Even though I have read only the Preface, this book shows great promise as a source for "Tales." In the Preface, the translator says: Knowing as we do that the Germans kept hundreds of thousands of prisoners alive, who were starving and sick due to the breakdown of German transport, and knowing the lengths to which the Germans went to keep Elie Weasel and a couple of thousand other Auschwitz internees alive to tell us their Tales, we can expect great things from a book that starts off with

To further titillate our interest, he assures us in the Preface that

"They seldom exaggerate."
'Tales', sans their usual exaggerations & embellishments? This should be interesting!

Originally Posted by Edmund Ruffin

I have at my fingertips 125 fresh "Tales of the Holocaust" which were hitherto beyond my reach. I finally located and bought a copy of the now very rare book, "Inside the Concentration Camps," by Eugene Aroneanu. I will share the cream of this new crop with readers here in coming days.

Even though I have read only the Preface, this book shows great promise as a source for "Tales." In the Preface, the translator says: Knowing as we do that the Germans kept hundreds of thousands of prisoners alive, who were starving and sick due to the breakdown of German transport, and knowing the lengths to which the Germans went to keep Elie Weasel and a couple of thousand other Auschwitz internees alive to tell us their Tales, we can expect great things from a book that starts off with

To further titillate our interest, he assures us in the Preface that

I always thought this would be an interesting book.

http://www.amazon.com/Hasidic-Tales-.../dp/067972043X

Originally Posted by JohnRossTaylor

I always thought this would be an interesting book.

http://www.amazon.com/Hasidic-Tales-.../dp/067972043X

My new book, "Inside the Concentration Camps,"(hereafter referred to as "ITCC") is a real mother lode. There is a problem, however, with separating the ore from the dross, because the writer does not give us any of the Tales as they were told, opting to extract snippets of each tale, by subject, without identifying the camp in most instances, and placing them altogether in sections with titles such as "Discipline" and "Roll Call." In each section we see the "Witnesses triyng to top each other's story, usually culminating in a tale so ridiculous that I hesitate to post them, since I can't link to the source.

As I report on the contents of this tome, I ask that the reader bear in mind that the official explanation, by the kosher historians and the Holocaust Museum itself, for the Germans resorting to the cumbersome and largely inefficient "Gassing" method of genocide was that they couldn't find men with the guts required to shoot large numbers of jews. You will be amazed to see just what these "Tender-hearted" Nazis were actually capable of doing.

On page 38 it says: "One 18 year old guard killed over 400 jews for their food rations."

This is easily topped on page 39, where it says that the head kapo at the Auschwitz train station beat over 30,000 jews to death, for which accomplishment he was admitted into "Hitler's Life Guards." The HLG must have been some kind of elite organization, of which I remain quite ignorant.

Readers will just have to take my word for it, or else go to a large library and avail themselves of the book.

In spite of the presence of one guard at Auschwitz who personally beat 30,000 jews to death, kosher sites tell us that mass shootings were so detrimental to SS morale that a better method had to be found, which led to gassing, which left us nearly 5 million live witnesses to regale us with the horrors of the Nazis to this day.

In Russia, Himmler visited a SS execution squad at work. This was at Minsk in August 1941. He was told in clear terms, that the work was affecting the morale of those SS men involved in it. Senior SS officers told Himmler that the shooting of unarmed civilians in cold-blood was sapping morale and that something had to be done to relieve this. Himmler ordered new methods to be investigated.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk...z-birkenau.htm

Many of the tales contain similar technical weaknesses that give the lie to the tales. The ubiquitous cattle car, in which so many jews are reported to have suffocated, despite the fact that such cars were designed specifically to prevent suffocation is a prime example.

Another is the simple handgun. In every tale that I have ever read where a pistol used by the Germans is described, it is always, without exception, a revolver! If you look at the list of German WWII weapons, you will see that Germany manufactured only semi-automatics for their military. All revolvers mentioned are of foreign manufacture. When you read the individual articles, you will see that they all say that captured examples saw limited usage by the Germans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rms_of_Germany

Yet all the Germans involved in holocausting jews carried revolvers exclusively! The tales in ITCC have dozens of revolvers, and nary a single Luger or Walther semi-auto.

PS: When captured, Goring was carrying a Smith and Wesson .38 revolver.