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    Question Does the military prosecutor want to kill Nidal Malik Hasan?

    Atlanta - Military prosecutors appear likely to ask for the death penalty for Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, who was charged Thursday with 13 counts of premeditated murder.



    That prosecutorial tack is indicated by military investigators' position thus far that Hasan acted alone and without instruction when he attacked Fort Hood's Soldier Readiness Processing Center Nov. 5, killing 13 and wounding 29. The military is also considering charging Hasan with a 14th murder because one victim was pregnant. The death of an unborn child can qualify as murder under military law.


    If Hasan is convicted, any death sentence would ultimately have to be approved by Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, Fort Hood commander, and President Obama.



    But emerging evidence that Hasan may have terrorist connections could alter the prosecutorial strategy, as his story would hold invaluable information for investigators.



    One way to get that information would be to offer Hasan a deal – such as revoking the death penalty if he'll fill in the gaps in the investigation.



    Getting Hasan to talk could be crucial if evidence points to a broader conspiracy that could include more attacks, says Annemarie McAvoy, a former federal prosecutor.
    "A guy like this may well not be interested in talking, because it's an ideological issue with a reward in the afterlife – in fact, a lot of these folks tell [investigators] to pound dirt," says Ms. McAvoy, now an expert on terrorism financing at Fordham Law School in New York. "On the other hand, he's an American and so hopefully if he's pulled away for a while he could become more reasonable and more cooperative.



    "The big question that investigators have to answer and answer quickly is whether this was a plot or was it really an isolated act," she adds.



    Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I) of Connecticut has called the Fort Hood shootings a possible terrorist attack, citing statements Hasan had made to colleagues denouncing the US war in the Middle East and indications that he had turned to Islamic extremism.



    Other reports of terrorist ties have surfaced in recent days. Intelligence officials have confirmed that Hasan had reached out to Anwar al-Awlaki, a radical cleric who lives in Yemen.
    Investigators are also reportedly looking into whether Hasan wired money to Pakistan in the days before the attack.


    The wire transfer issue is potentially explosive, says McAvoy, because a common practice of the 9/11 terrorists was to live cheaply and wire all extra income back to their Al Qaeda handlers. The notion of an Army doctor getting paid nearly $100,000 a year while living in a squalid $350 apartment fits that profile, says McAvoy.



    Reports about the money transfer come from Rep. Peter Hoestra (R) of Michigan, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, who told Fox News that some intelligence analysts are increasingly concerned about a terrorism connection. "They think it's a real lead," he said.



    The fact that the case has moved so quickly to a federal military court – which would preclude a civilian prosecution in another federal court at a later date – is disturbing to some analysts, including McAvoy.



    A military court martial may leave unanswered many questions about terrorist ties since court martials tend to focus on details of the crime and not motive, says Scott Silliman, executive director of the Center on Law, Ethics and National Security at Duke University in Durham, N.C.
    Still, a death penalty immunity deal in exchange for information is possible, he adds.


    "The way it would possibly work out is [Hasan's] lawyers would approach the government attorney who represents the commander, and say, 'We are prepared to cooperate in the investigation if you agree that even if the jury awards the death sentence, the commander will not approve it,' " says Mr. Silliman.



    How any evidence of terrorism would play into the quickly moving court martial of Hasan is unclear. The Army psychiatrist cannot be questioned by the Army Criminal Investigation Division until he's declared mentally able to stand trial. At that point, Hasan could waive his right to remain silent to talk directly to investigators.



    The Senate's Homeland Security Committee is planning hearings on the investigation next week.

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    Lightbulb Ft. Hood Tragedy: The Real Story of the Terrorist “Mad Doctor Hasan”

    Was Fort Hood really the target of a terrorist attack? The first clue to the real culprit emerged when Senator Joe Lieberman sought to blame this mass murder on the U.S. military. As chairman of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security, he promised hearings on how the Pentagon protects its personnel from domestic terrorists.


    Will Lieberman, an avowed Zionist, use this incident to insist that the U.S. do more to protect Jewish nationalists? More importantly, what do his concerns mean for homeland security?


    Joe Lieberman has an ally in Janet Napolitano, Secretary of Homeland Security. In April, this former Arizona governor warned about potential terrorism from U.S. troops returning from deployment in the Middle East. Though roundly attacked, she defended her position, calling it an “assessment not an accusation.”


    When Army Major Nidal Hasan killed U.S. troops on the nation’s largest military base, was this evidence of “militant Islam”? Or did this military psychiatrist snap under pressure while treating returning vets on a base averaging ten suicides a month? Is there an undisclosed agenda behind those seeking to portray this act as the work of “Islamo fascists”?



    To answer these questions requires a grasp of how “assets” are deployed by those skilled at waging war by way of deception. An asset is someone who has been profiled in sufficient depth that-when placed in a pre-staged time, place and circumstance-the person can be relied on to behave consistent with their profile.


    Best Story Wins


    Since the end of the Cold War, the predominant geopolitical narrative has been The Clash of Civilizations and its military counterpart: The Global War on Terrorism. How better to advance that storyline than to kill American soldiers even before they leave the U.S.? What’s the motive?


    Imagine if the intelligence that induced the U.S. to war was proven “fixed” around a preset goal. What if the common source of that treachery is poised to become transparent? If you were complicit in this deception (an act of treason), how would you obscure those facts? How would you sustain a “Muslim terrorist” narrative once the intelligence “facts” are exposed as pre-staged fictions meant to advance an undisclosed Israeli agenda?


    For those marketing The Clash premise, Dr. Hasan’s psychotic break was a blessing. At Family Security Matters, President Carol Taber describes this incident as “the Ft. Hood terrorist attack” by an “Islamist gunman.” Editor Pam Meister promotes “the shocking TRUTH (sic) behind these attacks so that we might ward off those yet to come.”


    Executive Vice-President Linda Cohen, who also serves as a trustee of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), offers advice certain to appeal to Lieberman and Napolitano:


    “No one is safe now. Not you, not the military, not your children, not office workers nor subway riders, nor anyone who happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.”
    Is there a precedent for combining aberrant behavior and a mass murder to advance a preset agenda? Do you recall the sniper attacks around Washington, D.C. in October 2002?
    Those murders commenced one day before debate began on Senate Resolution 46 proposed by Joe Lieberman to authorize the use of U.S. forces in Iraq. In the immediate aftermath of 9-11, Lieberman and Arizona Senator John McCain urged that the U.S. target not Al Qaeda but Iraq.


    The nation’s capital became a city under siege when those attacks created insecurity and heightened anxiety as serial murders left ten dead and three wounded over a 10-day period. Those random shootings transformed the terror of 9-11 into a personal reality for Washington residents while Lieberman deployed phony intelligence to promote the invasion of a nation that had no hand in the mass murder of 9-11.


    Assets and Sayanim


    Once again: assets are profiled personalities catalyzed to act out known dysfunctions in ways that are advantageous based on the time, place and circumstances of their behavior. The totality of the facts suggests that Dr. Nidal Hasan may well have been such an asset.


    Assets are typically identified, profiled and developed over lengthy periods of time. Their potential to act out a known personality disorder is held in reserve in the same way that a military commander holds troops in reserve for deployment at an opportune time.


    How is an asset developed in plain sight and then tasked at the right moment? Only a careful investigation can identify those influences particular to Dr. Hasan, including what decisions led to his transfer to Ft. Hood and the circumstances there that triggered his behavior.


    News reports to date are consistent with this analysis. For instance, his name appears as a participant for public briefings at the Homeland Security Policy Institute at George Washington University. As a registrant in the Obama presidential transition task force (”Thinking Anew-Security Priorities for the Next Administration”), he would have interacted with a team of nine “task force briefers.” Judging from their surnames, at least seven were Ashkenazim.
    As a combat-stress psychiatrist, Dr. Hasan dealt daily with troubled vets at Walter Reed Hospital where the most grievously wounded are sent to recover, many of them amputees, disfigured or otherwise handicapped for life.


    While coping with that vicarious trauma, he was taunted for his Muslim beliefs and harassed for his Middle Eastern heritage even though he was born, raised and educated in the U.S..


    Despite clear indications of internal turmoil, including repeated attempts to resign his commission, he was dispatched to a post known for its huge population of combat-stressed vets. He arrived anticipating orders to deploy to Afghanistan, realizing his worst nightmare.


    Meanwhile a commander-in-chief promising change made matters even worse in the region.


    Israeli psy-ops rely on an extensive cadre of sayanim (Hebrew for volunteers) who are shielded from legal culpability by being told only enough to perform their narrow role when tasked to assist with operations on an as-needed basis. Otherwise, they gather and report useful intelligence. Thus the presence of sayanim throughout the U.S.


    government. A sayan may well have identified Nidal Hasan as a potential asset who could be developed and, as here, deployed.


    At What Cost?


    With evidence emerging that Israelis and pro-Israelis were the source of the sham intelligence that induced the U.S. to war, those responsible are scrambling to cover their tracks.


    Americans will soon realize what the facts confirm: Jewish nationalists deceived the U.S. in order to deploy our military to pursue Israel’s expansionist agenda for the Middle East.
    Americans will soon awaken to the cost of this entangled alliance in blood and treasure. U.S. deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan have topped 6000 with well over one million Iraqis and Afghanis dead from the wars and from violence unleashed by those who manipulated this alliance to induce an invasion.


    That brings us back to the uncomfortable but essential question: Was Homeland Security created to protect the U.S.? Or was it created to protect those who deceived the U.S.? Was this incident another example of the murderous misdirection deployed to pit Americans against Muslims to advance unacknowledged Zionist goals?


    By shifting blame to the military, do Lieberman and Napolitano intend to use federal law enforcement to contain the outraged reaction of an informed public and an awakened military? Was Dr. Nidal Hasan a terrorist? Or was he a troubled pawn in an ongoing psy-ops campaign meant to revive a narrative that-like the fixed intelligence-was losing credibility?


    Both the false intelligence and the anti-Muslim narrative feature a theme of fomenting hate and intolerance. On October 28th, President Obama signed into law ADL’s model hate crime legislation. Will that federal law now be deployed by Homeland Security to silence those who make transparent the common source of this deception?


    How much longer before a long-deceived public-both in the U.S. and abroad-takes the steps required to ensure that never again is duplicity allowed to operate on such a scale?

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    I would not rule out a mind control shooting intended to gin up support for the unpopular occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.

    This guy was apparently a Muslim militant, and it's a little mind-boggling that he was tolerated in the military for so long. It will be interesting to find out if he were hypnotized or taking part in any unusual psychological experiments recently. Then again, if he suddenly dies in hospital, that will be the end of it.

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    Angry Pentagon will investigate Ft. Hood shooting rampage, Defense secretary says

    Reporting from Washington - Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates today announced the start of a sweeping Pentagon review of events leading up to the Ft. Hood rampage, a probe that will examine whether military officials could have taken more aggressive preemptive action against the accused killer and, if so, why they didn't, officials said today.

    Gates at a news briefing said he was appointing a pair of retired Defense officials to lead the probe, former Army Secretary Togo West and former Navy chief Vernon Clark.

    In addition to asking for a review of the events leading up to the shooting, Gates seek recommendations on how best to prevent similar incidents in the future. The review likely will look at weapons policies on military bases as well as procedures for disciplining or treating personnel who exhibit the kind of aberrant behavior that Hasan allegedly showed.

    Maj. Nadal Malik Hasan is accused of killing 13 people in a Nov. 5 rampage at Ft. Hood. Since the shooting, former co-workers and documents have suggested that Hasan had evolved into a personally troubled and radical Islamic extremist while serving as a military psychiatrist.

    Hasan received repeated warnings about his poor work at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he was a psychiatrist. He also was admonished for proselytizing after pressing others to accept his view of Islam.

    Federal law enforcement officials and the Pentagon are struggling to explain why signs of trouble were missed or not fully investigated, such as e-mails between Hasan and a radical cleric in Yemen.

    The 45-day military review will be done alongside an investigation ordered earlier by President Obama into federal policies and a likely series of congressional probes. The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee is holding a hearing today to ask former government officials and experts what they believe went wrong in the Ft. Hood case.

    In launching the new review, Gates is adhering to his practice of appointing former Defense officials to investigate the military's shortcomings. Most recently, he tapped a former Defense secretary to lead a panel on the military's failure to properly track and secure nuclear-related material.

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    This means "We weren't a bunch of bungling idiots for being so politically correct that we recruited a militant Muslim and then failed to notice how out of place he was. Now we'll try to sweep this incident under the rug with a long investigation that everyone will forget about."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smedley Butler View Post
    This guy was apparently a Muslim militant, and it's a little mind-boggling that he was tolerated in the military for so long.
    Because he is a Muslim Arab the Washington Government's Military would regard him as a very valuable asset. Their Military is recruiting them heavily.

    He did not kill valuable assets, he killed common soldiers.

    If the local Police had not gotten involved, we would have probably never even heard about this murder spree, just like we don't hear about the other murder sprees in the Military.

    Except for this one, and two others, I have not heard of any of the many murders that take place within the Military from the Controlled Media, but I have heard of many taking place from Soldiers in my family and from Soldiers among my friends.

    This story was released only because there was no easy way to keep a lid on it once the Civilian Police got involved, especially after a Civilian Police Officer was wounded by gun fire.

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    The result of the investigation will be:

    Next time, don't involve the Civilian Police, then no one outside of the Military will ever know that events like that are just bound to happen in a Multicultural Hodge Podge of a Military!

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    Arrow Pentagon to probe 'internal weaknesses' behind Fort Hood shooting




    Washington - The Pentagon will undertake a 45-day review to find out if there are "internal weaknesses or procedural shortcomings" across the department that could have allowed the shootings at Fort Hood to occur, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said Thursday.

    Thirteen people died and 29 were injured on Nov. 5 when Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan allegedly opened fire at a Soldier Processing Center in Fort Hood, Texas.

    The review announced by Secretary Gates will look at possible "gaps and deficiencies" within the Defense Department that led to the failure to identify a threat in its own ranks before it was too late. The review will look at personnel programs, screening processes, and counseling services, as well as look at physical infrastructure and mass casualty evacuation procedures across the services.

    Former Navy chief Vernon Clark and former Army secretary Togo West Jr., will lead the Pentagon review.

    The review is one of many now underway within the Army and across government in the wake of the Fort Hood shooting. A preliminary investigation into the incident ordered by President Obama will be complete by Nov. 30. Congress is conducting its own investigation, with a hearing led by Sen. Joseph Lieberman, (I) of Connecticut, held Thursday. Gates's Pentagon review ordered by Gates will be completed by early January.

    Gates, who attended the funeral of Fort hood victim, Spc. Frederick Greene, in Tennessee Wednesday, said these reviews won't necessarily help people directly affected by the tragedy. "There is nothing any of us can say to ease the pain for the wounded, the families of the fallen, and the members of the Fort Hood community touched by this incident," he said.

    Asked if he considered the shooting to be an act of terrorism, Gates said he would wait until the facts are in. "I'm just not going to go there," he said.

    Hasan, charged with 13 counts of murder, is an Army psychiatrist who reportedly performed poorly on the job and had made some troubling comments about the role of the US in Iraq and Afghanistan. That and other evidence that intelligence officials knew he was in touch with a radical Muslim cleric in Yemen has drawn concern that the military and intelligence community should have seen the warning signs.

    It has also raised questions about American Muslims inside and outside the military. But Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said no one should jump to conclusions.

    "No one should draw any rapid conclusions, and we need to ensure that we treat everybody fairly … before this incident and after this incident," said Mullen.

    Added Gates: "In a nation as diverse as the United States, the last thing we need to do is start pointing fingers at each other, particularly when there is no basis in fact for it."

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    Question Senator Asks About Troops’ Meds Use





    Military.com|by Bryant Jordan

    Sen. Benjamin L. Cardin, D-Md.

    A U.S. senator wants to know if American warfighters are being overmedicated in theater as a way to help them -- and the military -- get through the ongoing wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    "The military appears to be using antidepressants at a very high rate," said Sen. Benjamin L. Cardin, D-Md., during a podcast interview with Military.com. "The concern is that when in a battleground situation you don’t always have the type of supervision … of these drugs that are recommended."

    Listen to Military.com's podcast interview with Senator Ben Cardin.

    And given the young ages of troops being given the drugs, he said, "there are potential adverse consequences that cannot adequately be monitored in theater."

    Cardin recently asked the Pentagon for an official tally of just how many troops in combat may be on antidepressants. In a Nov. 10 letter to Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Cardin ordered the Defense Department to "compile and provide to may office a report identifying the estimated number and percentage of troops since June 2005 who have been prescribed antidepressant medications while serving in Iraq and Afghanistan."

    Cardin said it is well known that troops are under increased stress and strain from pulling multiple deployments, often with short dwell times at home in between. The suicide rate has also been climbing among troops since the wars began -- for instance, the number of Soldiers taking their own lives in 2009 has already equaled that of the total for 2008.

    Cardin said people on such medications have to be supervised by medical personnel, but he is concerned that troops in combat, being on the move, may not be getting the proper attention.

    "The bottom line is we want to protect our troops. We want to protect our Soldiers and their families," he told Military.com.

    He said he wants Congress and the Defense Department to work together to provide the best care for the deployed troops.

    "My request for Secretary Gates is, let’s take a look at this … not to draw any conclusions, but let’s evaluate as to whether we’re using … antidepressants" appropriately.

    A statement on Cardin’s official website reads: "As a nation we ask so much of our men and women in uniform without knowing the full extent of the mental trauma inflicted by combat. We can take steps to limit multiple deployments and extended separations, but we also must work to remedy the strains and deteriorating mental health of so many of our combat troops. It is imperative that we determine if DoD is prescribing anti-depressants to its servicemembers appropriately. My concern is not the long-term efficacy of these drugs, but the sheer volume and manner in which these drugs are being administered to our troops overseas."

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    A General in the Washington Government's Military has already stated that in spite of that little murder spree (that did not kill anyone of any importance?) Diversity is their Military's greatest strength.

    What would be their second greatest strength? The diverse enemy combatants outside their Military?

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    Arrow Hospital hearing set for Fort Hood suspect



    US Army Major Nidal Hasan

    US army Major Nidal Hasan is to stand trial at his hospital room for a shooting incident at America's largest onshore military base in which 12 people were killed.

    The preliminary court hearing is set to take place at the Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio on Saturday, Hasan's attorney, John Galligan, said on Friday.

    The November 5 incident at the base has left Hasan charged with thirteen counts of pre-meditated murder.

    His defense team is attempting to buy more time in order to determine a timely prosecution for Major Nidal over his medical condition.

    Following the hearing it will de decided whether Hassan should be placed in pre-trial confinement. Galligan, however, says that Major Nidal still needs intensive care, the Associated Press reported.

    Hasan could face capital punishment should he be found guilty of the charges brought against him. The case has been described as the highest-profile court-martial in at least a generation.

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