Thread: I’M NOT VERY GOOD AT MATH, BUT DOES THIS SOUND ‘KOSHER’ TO YOU?

I believe they're trying to get as much money as possible from all of his personal items as well as the money that was (or wasn't?) in his bank accounts (or the bank accounts that are known!), so it's a bit messed up, but not uncommonly so.

Every transaction over $10,000 is supposed to be reported.

Either these transactions are recorded, or this $18,000,000,000 ,( or $65 billion depending on who's figures you use) was moved out with milllions of transactions in amounts of under $10k at a time,without anyone noticing.

But the way, you cannot move 10's of $billions around the globe without people knowing. After all, $18 billion is greater than the GDP of many countries. This alone points to high level involvement.

I have more info on this Madoff affair. I'll see if I can dig it up.

Originally Posted by Silver Stallion

Every transaction over $10,000 is supposed to be reported.

Either these transactions are recorded, or this $18,000,000,000 ,( or $65 billion depending on who's figures you use) was moved out with milllions of transactions in amounts of under $10k at a time,without anyone noticing.

But the way, you cannot move 10's of $billions around the globe without people knowing. After all, $18 billion is greater than the GDP of many countries. This alone points to high level involvement.

Most of the banks are owned by the Jews. Since they are in the business of defrauding the world, then you can be sure that any amount of money can be moved without anyone knowing about it.

All banking is a criminal enterprise. The only way to balance the budget is to hang the bankers and confiscate their loot.

Originally Posted by Former Liberal

Banjo_Billy for President!

Thank you, thank you. My fellow Americans, as my first act as President, I will close the Federal Reserve Bank and cancel all home mortgage payments. I will order the arrest of all bankers and their extended families and the confiscation of all of their properties for return to the US Treasury. Second, I will issue an international arrest warrant for the entire Rothschild clan and their relatives and extended families for Crimes Against Humanity. After that, I will have all members of Congress immediately hung for treason.

Then, free ice cream for everybody.

Originally Posted by Banjo_Billy

After that, I will have all members of Congress immediately hung for treason.

Including Ron Paul and his newly elected Senator son, Rand??

Originally Posted by Benjamin Franklin

Including Ron Paul and his newly elected Senator son, Rand??

Well, okay. He will be reprieved, but only because you asked.

Ron Paul will be required to read "The Lost Science of Money" by Stephan Zarlinga, so that he stops making stupid statements about gold and money. Then I will promote him to Treasury Secretary.

After that, free ice cream for everybody.

Originally Posted by Banjo_Billy

Well, okay. He will be reprieved, but only because you asked.

Do you have disdain for Ron and/or Rand Paul, or are you just kidding?

Originally Posted by Sigrid

Do you have disdain for Ron and/or Rand Paul, or are you just kidding?

No, I'm not kidding. Neither of those jokers are stating the facts about money or about the FED. They are just two more fake politicians dancing-the-hora around the real problem while avoiding both the real causes and the real cures.

Neither one of those jokers understand money or the FED and if they do, then they are both lying about it. Rand Paul is a fake (nothing new there for a standard politician) and Ron Paul is a Judas goat.

If you really want to understand the organized crime known as banking, then watch these two animated cartoons and you will understand why not one single politician is telling the truth about the FED or about banking. They are all liars and Judas goats.

Swindling the Goyim: The Basic Swindle
WNTube - YouTube the White Nationalist way... - Swindling the Goyim One

Swindling the Goyim:Episode Two
WNTube - YouTube the White Nationalist way... - Swindling the Goyim Two

Ron Paul has stood up to Israel more than almost anyone in America. He is the only Congressman who voted against condemning Palestinian violence against Israelis. And unlike most people here, including myself, he uses his real name and does it in public. So before we insult his lack of fortitude and gumption. Look at what oneself has done. And for those few who use their real name, how have they done compared to Dr Paul. Anyone calling for harm to either of those men really should not be on this board. And I'd wish the maximum prosecution under the law for anyone who tries anything on them.

Banjo_Billy,

I think I know a little bit about Ron Paul. I have met him in twelve different cities in the U.S. from 2007 to 2010. I met him in Washington, D.C. twice.

I consider him to have accomplished, as in ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHED, more for our White people than all but possibly a very few, if any men.

He has mobilized MILLIONS of our best White folks into key battles against our enemies.

What have you done? I'm not familiar with your work, or what you have ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHED for our people.

What was mother thinking when she named you Banjo Billy? Oh, that's not your real name. OK. That's good enough.

But, I ask you, how are you able to fling cheap-shot insults at men FAR, FAR, FAR greater than yourself as if YOU are something so wonderful that all should listen?

I love the fact that anonymity is possible on the web. I salute anonymity. We need anonymity. But to anonymously insult great men whose lives are constantly at risk, and Ron and Rand Paul's are certainly at risk, just doesn't make any sense to me.

Please post more seriously on this forum. We're trying to make White nationalism look mainstream, not kooky. We're trying to attract the winners to our cause. If we fail to attract the winners of White culture to this cause, then WE have failed every bit as much as they will have failed.

Originally Posted by Banjo_Billy

No, I'm not kidding. Neither of those jokers are stating the facts about money or about the FED. They are just two more fake politicians dancing-the-hora around the real problem while avoiding both the real causes and the real cures.

Neither one of those jokers understand money or the FED and if they do, then they are both lying about it. Rand Paul is a fake (nothing new there for a standard politician) and Ron Paul is a Judas goat.

If you really want to understand the organized crime known as banking, then watch these two animated cartoons and you will understand why not one single politician is telling the truth about the FED or about banking. They are all liars and Judas goats.

Swindling the Goyim: The Basic Swindle
WNTube - YouTube the White Nationalist way... - Swindling the Goyim One

Swindling the Goyim:Episode Two
WNTube - YouTube the White Nationalist way... - Swindling the Goyim Two

Originally Posted by Alexander Hamilton

Ron Paul has stood up to Israel more than almost anyone in America. He is the only Congressman who voted against condemning Palestinian violence against Israelis. And unlike most people here, including myself, he uses his real name and does it in public. So before we insult his lack of fortitude and gumption. Look at what oneself has done. And for those few who use their real name, how have they done compared to Dr Paul. Anyone calling for harm to either of those men really should not be on this board. And I'd wish the maximum prosecution under the law for anyone who tries anything on them.

I have actually run for public office, so there are a couple of things that maybe you boys don't understand about both politics and the private life of a citizen.

Every politician has his own niche. Even if 99% of what they say is no different than any other politician, it's that 1% that makes them different from their fellows. So, if they do just one thing that no other politician does, then that satisfies the requirement of "seeming" to be different. Look at Obama, he is certainly different. And he promised "Change" as a running slogan even though nothing he has done has been out-of-the-ordinary-in-politics including the betrayal of white people and destruction of the country. Whatever "change" he has made is all for the worst.

You are misconstruing what I am saying. Do not assume that my criticism of either Ron of Rand Paul is anything but criticism. Or is criticism now a Politically Incorrect no-no in politics? Is criticism now defined as "calling for harm" or is it still merely criticism? I am criticising their false and deceptive stand in regard to money and banking. So what? Both of them are wrong and both of them are either deceiving the People or they are deceiving themselves on this subject. And I can prove it. My criticism is based in fact, not opinion and not conjecture. But what do either of them have other than false assumptions and false solutions? Neither is working with the facts. And both are promoting programs that only cause more harm to the economy.

And, how does my criticism of their proposed programs be construed as an "insult to his lack of fortitude and gumption"? I don't see it. Both of those politicians have plenty of "fortitude and gumption" otherwise they couldn't be politicians. A politician can be nothing but a sack of lies, but with "fortitude and gumption" can be elected to high office. That isn't the problem. The problem is that both of them are wrong and are promoting false solutions for a problem that they don't seem to understand. "Seem" is the key word here -- whether they understand the problem or not depends on their honesty. And only they know how honest they are being on the subject.

Originally Posted by Jamie Kelso

Banjo_Billy,

I think I know a little bit about Ron Paul. I have met him in twelve different cities in the U.S. from 2007 to 2010. I met him in Washington, D.C. twice.

I consider him to have accomplished, as in ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHED, more for our White people than all but possibly a very few, if any men.

He has mobilized MILLIONS of our best White folks into key battles against our enemies.

What have you done? I'm not familiar with your work, or what you have ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHED for our people.

What was mother thinking when she named you Banjo Billy? Oh, that's not your real name. OK. That's good enough.

But, I ask you, how are you able to fling cheap-shot insults at men FAR, FAR, FAR greater than yourself as if YOU are something so wonderful that all should listen?

I love the fact that anonymity is possible on the web. I salute anonymity. We need anonymity. But to anonymously insult great men whose lives are constantly at risk, and Ron and Rand Paul's are certainly at risk, just doesn't make any sense to me.

Please post more seriously on this forum. We're trying to make White nationalism look mainstream, not kooky. We're trying to attract the winners to our cause. If we fail to attract the winners of White culture to this cause, then WE have failed every bit as much as they will have failed.

Unfortunately, what we imagine to be the requirements of our leaders, is one of the basic defining notions of White Nationalism. WNs seem to think that our leaders should be both immaculate white knights riding white horses AND saints. Anything less than such ideas of perfection have two consequences. First, when our leaders are shown to be only human and not supermen, many WNs will turn on such leaders with scorn and hatred. Men whom they one day have placed upon a pedestal, the next day they drag into the gutter and step upon. Anything short of perfection is intolerable to them. That is one reaction that WN have towards their leaders, leaders who have revealed a flaw or a human error. The other reaction is unwarranted defense of and a rallying around of their hero even when such hero-worship is defending their hero's errors in judgement.

Both of the above White Nationalist Leadership Ideals are not the result of the leader, himself, but they are illusions within the mind of the followers. I see that you have some of these illusions toward those two politicians.

You ask what I have done. First, if you will read my book, The Sumerian Swindle, you will see that I have unlocked several of the mysteries of world history and politics. And I have solved the problem of moneylending and usury that is plaguing the West. These, by themselves, are more than all of the politicians in Congress have accomplished, including your hero. But I have done a lot more than that although that is enough to discuss in this thread.

As far as "cheap shots", perhaps you don't understand that politicians have thick hides and they don't consider criticism to be a "cheap shot". If anyone is using cheap shots, it is you for falsely accusing me of such.

As regards your distain for anonymity, I think you really have forgotten both the Constitutional Right to anonymity as well as the power and the personal freedom that anonymity gives. Yes, anonymity is a Constitutional Right. Like all of our Rights, we tend to take anonymity for granted until we lose that right. When I was in politics, it was only then that I learned how very valuable anonymity is. The private citizen has every right to protect his anonymity. And it is a right that he gives up when he steps into the public eye. Just going to the store for groceries or enjoying a walk in the park, is no longer among the ordinary joys of life when you lose your anonymity. Ask any rock star, actor or politician and they will agree with me on this subject.

You, yourself, should know the personal danger people are wont to when they oppose tyranny in high office. The tyrants have the power to ruin lives if they can find their critic. But anonymity is a good protection against our tyrannical foes in government. And it has a long and valuable historical precident. So, for you to criticise me for wishing to remain anonymous, is both unfair or it is hypocritical. If you have forgotten your own pleasant days of anonymity, that's your problem. Don't wish it on someone else.

You, Jamie Kelso, gave up your anonymity when you entered the political and the public arena. Good for you and more power to you. That was your choice for doing the best that you can do in a certain public sphere. If I wish to remain anonymous, that is my choice for doing the best I can in a certain private sphere. It's my choice and my right. If you have lost your right to anonymity, it was your choice.

On the one hand you can say, "But to anonymously insult great men whose lives are constantly at risk, and Ron and Rand Paul's are certainly at risk, just doesn't make any sense to me." And on the other hand you question my use of anonymity. Of course, those two politicians put their lives at risk; that's part of the price they pay for being politicians. You are being disingenuous to claim that it "doesn't make sense" after stating the reason why it does make sense.

Consider for a moment a man drowning in the ocean. If somone throws him a life buoy and he refuses to take it, whose fault is that? Should he shout to the one who tossed him the aid, "Why are you not doing more for me?" Or should he take his one form of safety floating next to him and be greatful for the rescue?

I am offering you a very simple way to solve the problems of the Age in just two, five minute animations. If you are not too busy for ten minutes, watch "Swindling the Goyim" both episodes. Then you will be able to tell Ron Paul why he is barking up the wrong tree in regard to banking and money. But if you are not willing to take the life buoy that I am tossing to you, then why shout at me, "What are you doing to save the country and your people?" Or why shout at me: "I refuse to take a life buoy from an anonymous rescuer." So, if you won't take the life buoy, whose fault is that? If you don't understand banking, then how can you solve our financial problems?

I am not asking you to read my book, but at least take ten minutes to understand banking and finance. Watch "Swindling the Goyim" then you will be qualified to tell me that anonymous people are worthless people. But you aren't qualifed to tell me that because you have forgotten your own days of happy anonymity.

Sincerely and very seriously,

Banjo_Billy

Originally Posted by Former Liberal

I take that back.

I did appreciate the ice-cream but without Ron Paul advising you as President, you dont stand a chance at making a real change.

Real change can only happen when facts are understood and fallacies are thrown down.

Politicians who perpetuate fallacies can certainly make changes but whatever changes they make can only have unhappy ends since their changes are based in fallacy and not based in Truth.

Jamie Kelso has run for office. And while you may have as well, I doubt you spoke liked you do now on your Web-site when you did. And while obviously one has a right to anonymity, but it is one thing to use your anonymity and another to jump on those that don't and act like you are braver than them because they are supposedly wrong on the Federal banks which wasn't even the focus of this thread (it was Madoff stealing people's money). You called them liars, fakes and Judas goats. Paul has openly taken the disdain of Jewish extremism.

I have read some stuff on your site. While well written and loaded with information, rarely does the information reach any proper answer in my view. I do commend your efforts, though.

Even if you know a way to "solve a problem of the age" of which I am a little skeptical, it does no good if our own people won't listen to you, and the way you present yourself especially with every slur about Jewish people in the English language is an instant turnoff.

Originally Posted by Alexander Hamilton

Jamie Kelso has run for office. And while you may have as well, I doubt you spoke liked you do now on your Web-site when you did. And while obviously one has a right to anonymity, but it is one thing to use your anonymity and another to jump on those that don't and act like you are braver than them because they are supposedly wrong on the Federal banks which wasn't even the focus of this thread (it was Madoff stealing people's money). You called them liars, fakes and Judas goats. Paul has openly taken the disdain of Jewish extremism.

I have read some stuff on your site. While well written and loaded with information, rarely does the information reach any proper answer in my view. I do commend your efforts, though.

Even if you know a way to "solve a problem of the age" of which I am a little skeptical, it does no good if our own people won't listen to you, and the way you present yourself especially with every slur about Jewish people in the English language is an instant turnoff.

In the first place, when I ran for office, the Internet didn't even exist except as a system of DOS messages in a computer script. And no, I don't talk today like I did then because I know more about the problem today than I did then.

In the second place, that is my publisher's website. He guarantees to protect my anonymity and I guarantee him first publishing rights for my works. I have a place to publish my stuff without having my name attached to any of it. My work stands on its own merits; I don't need a name.

In the third place, Madoff is just one tentacle of the banker's octopus. His scam is no different than the banker's scam. It's the same trick of arithmetic, swindling people's wealth while hiding where the money goes and where it comes from. All financiers operate the Sumerian Swindle for their benefit.

In the fourth place, we white folks don't have time to be too nice. The Jews and leftists are destroying this country and you folks seem to think that talking around the problem will solve the problem. It never has yet, and it never will. We must identify the problems and solve them.

In the fifth place, yes, I have solved one of the major problems of the Ages. The Sumerian Swindle was conceived in Sumeria and Babylonia and is being perpetuated to this very day by the lying bankers. Why do the bankers own the world? They know but they don't want you to know. Do they deserve to have it? No. Did they get it with honest work? They never worked a day in their rotten lives. Do they own the world for the benefit of the People? No, they own the world for the impoverishment and destruction of the People. Bankers are criminals and subverters of nations.

Every politician today is offering nothing but pablum to babies. Those cowards in Congress are betraying this country. None of them have identified the cause and cure for the problem as have I. And that problem is that all banking is a swindle. Every banker is a criminal. And my calculations prove it very simply in a way that anyone can understand. When you understand that the entire money system is set up as a huge fraud, then "reforming" the system is useless. We must put a stop to it and arrest the bankers and financiers who operate the scam.

The People and the Nation are impoverished. Where did the money go? It went into the banker's pockets. The wealth is still there. But it has been swindled from the rightful owners and obscounded with by the thieving financiers.

We cannot have monetary reform without (1) returning to Constitutional money and (2) arresting the bankers for grand larceny and treason and taking back what they have stolen. And (3) understanding that big thieves should not be allowed to keep their loot.

The bankers have betrayed and impoverished this country as well as Europe and everywhere else in the world where they are allowed to operate their schemes. Five thousand years of their swindles, their wars, their genocides against Mankind, is long enough. We must put a stop to it.

There is not a 5,000 year old banking swindle. That doesn't mean certain money lender types don't use old practices. Many bankers are perfectly honest people.

It is not an issue of being too nice. It is an issue of presenting ourselves in a respectable way to our people.

Anonymity has its place, but I still have much respect for those brave souls who speak out in the open. How one presents oneself will dictate how they will be perceived. The Pauls are great people and present themselves as the gentlemen they are.

Originally Posted by Alexander Hamilton

There is not a 5,000 year old banking swindle. That doesn't mean certain money lender types don't use old practices. Many bankers are perfectly honest people.

It is not an issue of being too nice. It is an issue of presenting ourselves in a respectable way to our people.

Anonymity has its place, but I still have much respect for those brave souls who speak out in the open. How one presents oneself will dictate how they will be perceived. The Pauls are great people and present themselves as the gentlemen they are.

Since my book, The Sumerian Swindle, breaks new ground on the subject of moneylending and banking, then if you haven't read it, you are behind the times and unable to accurately access the true nature of banking or to understand money. The Sumerian Swindle has, indeed, been perpetuated for 5,000 years or more and it is the cause of the world's financial woes. Again, if you haven't read my book, then you wouldn't know these never-before-published facts.

Because all banking is a swindle and a fraud, it is impossible for bankers to be anything other than criminals. Even the worst Mafioso gangsters pretend to be honest and respectable businessmen. So, the bankers have role models that they follow.

Also, you seem to not understand that "how people present themselves" often has very little to do with the type of people that they really are -- especially in politics where everyone on the podium wears a charming smile.

Originally Posted by Banjo_Billy

Because all banking is a swindle and a fraud, it is impossible for bankers to be anything other than criminals.

I appreciate your post. However, many bankers are unaware of the big picture - especially the criminal nature of judeo-banking, as this banker who wrote a Foreword in Ellen Brown's book, Web of Debt, says:

Web of Debt - Foreword

Foreword

by REED SIMPSON, M.Sc., Banker and Developer
I have been a banker for most of my career, and I can report that even most bankers are not aware of what goes on behind closed doors at the top of their field. Bankers tend to their own corner of the banking business, without seeing the big picture or the ramifications of the whole system they are helping to perpetuate. I am more familiar than most with the issues raised in Ellen Brown's book Web of Debt, and I still found it to be an eye-opener, a remarkable window into what is really going on.


The process by which money comes into existence is thoroughly misunderstood, and for good reason: it has been the focus of a highly sophisticated and long-term disinformation campaign that permeates academia, media, and publishing. The complexity of the subject has been intentionally exploited to keep its mysteries hidden. Henry Ford said it best: "It is well that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."

In banking schools and universities, I was drilled in the technology of money and banking, clearing houses, the Federal Reserve System, money creation through the multiplier effect, and the peculiar role of the commercial banker as the guardian of the public treasure. This idealized vision contrasted sharply with what I saw as I worked in the U.S. banking sector. Although there are many financially sound banks that follow the highest ethical standards, corruption is also rampant that flies in the face of the stated ethical objectives of the American Bankers Association and the guidelines of the FDIC, the Comptroller of the Currency, and other regulators. This tendency is particularly evident in the large money center banks, in one of which I worked.

(snip) Web of Debt - Foreword