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Reply With QuoteI have used this Rifle on many occasions and never had a problem but it only takes one incident to cause an injury. To be honest,I have never had a problem with any Remington made gun ever.
Remington 700 Safety Problem
This is a HUGE story. The Remington 700 is a very popular hunting rifle.
My dad heard this on the news and was telling me that there were cases of it going off without pulling the trigger.
Anyhow, tell all your friends, this is one of the worst firearms safety problems, I've ever heard.
Remington 700 Rifle Under Heavy Fire
CNBC’s documentary entitled “Remington Under Fire: A CNBC Investigation” takes a closer look at the Remington 700-series hunting rifle and the controversies surrounding it. It aims to investigate all the allegations and lawsuit hurled by affected people. They claim that the 700-series rifle as dangerous stating that it is prone to firing without anyone pulling its trigger and that the company has known about the problem in the past 60 years. This problem has been linked to more than a hundred injuries and about 24 cases of fatality.
I have used this Rifle on many occasions and never had a problem but it only takes one incident to cause an injury. To be honest,I have never had a problem with any Remington made gun ever.
As long as you don't have a round chambered, there's no danger. Obviously, most rifles don't have this problem, but it's good to be aware that it might happen.Originally Posted by Hobbit
This is similar statistically to the runaway acceleration problem with the Toyotas.
There have been five million Remington model 700 rifles sold. And 24 people have been killed and over 100 injured. (I'd estimate thousands of accidental firings with a lot of accidental shots into the ground or trees or walls that have gone unreported. Most gun owners have enough sense never to point their gun at a human being.)
Remington's Response
I do webwork for Remington and think that you should take a look at the video that Remington made in response to the news story.
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This is supposed to be one of the better rifles out there.
They are popular with police forces.
Did Remington hire a team of top notch engineers to look over the Model 700 rifle, test it in extreme temperatures and check for fatigue and wear problems?
I don't trust big corporations. They keep making excuses until there's a big body count.
Boeing did that with the 737 rudder problems. Three planes crashed before they got sufficiently competent people involved to solve that problem. Toyota denied any problems with runaway acceleration until a few dozen people got killed. And now there are allegedly 24 deaths and over 100 wounded by Model 700s that allegedly go off without pulling the trigger.
I haven't seen the documentary accusing Remington yet. It's going to replay on CNBC on Sunday.
I'd rather see schematics of the trigger and firing pin mechanism and know what sort of tolerance stack up issues might exist. Also, if there's a mix of Aluminum and steel in the firing mechanism, that might cause some thermal-expansion mismatch problems.
I expect propaganda from both sides when something like this emerges, but a class action lawsuit needs some merit to it before a law firm will commit to spend a lot of time on it. I strongly suspect that there's a real problem here.
Some rifle companies don't have good engineering support, and I can easily see them making big mistakes...
(Different problem with Model 700.)
YouTube - Remington X-Mark Pro Trigger - FAILURE
I just watched the CNBC documentary. They're quoting SWAT team members, police and even the military as witnessing this accidental firing problem --some of whom made videos of rifles firing without the trigger being pulled.
One Florida police department dropped the use of the Model 700 rifle after a "friendly fire" round accidentally went off in the middle of a police raid. Fortunately no one was killed.
There have been thousands of complaints about accidental firing and Consumer Reports was testing a Remington 700, which accidentally fired --more than once during testing.
Designers at Remington recognized a flaw in the trigger design that might cause accidental firings. The flaw was spotted after 200 rifles had been produced. They could have fixed the trigger at a cost of 5.5 cents per rifle.
Pre-1982 Remingtons are prone to firing when the safety is turned off to unload the gun. (Guns made after 1982 can be unloaded with the safety on.) The Barber family was out hunting in Montana. Nine year old Gus Barber was shot by a pre-1982 rifle held by his sister. As a result of that incident, Remington offered a $20 fix.
Remington paid $17 million to a Texas oil field supervisor, Glenn Collins who shot off one of his feet with a Remington 700. During the trial, the rifle mechanism fired accidentally in the courtroom (the gun was fortunately unloaded at the time).
The new "X-Mark Pro" trigger system was introduced in 2007, and it is the same design as the proposed 1947 solution that would have cost 5.5 cents per gun back then.
The designer Mike Walker insisted on inspections to make sure that tolerances were kept up so that this problem wouldn't happen. He left the company in 1975. And the strict tolerance checks were discontinued.
Internal documents at Remington estimated that about one percent of the rifles were prone to have an accidental firing problem.
While it's true that the liberal media is anti-gun, it's also true that there is something wrong with the Model 700 design.
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