Thread: 2012 & Illuminati

I went through about 2 years of this research and this is what I found.

Much of these clips are propaganda...against the white race/Europe.

I also found that Jews call Christianity "The Blood Cult." and "Devil Worshiping."
I also found that many Masonic Lodges are filled with many different religions but were primarily Christian.
Many of the "Strange Death Rituals" were rituals performed by Christians representing the Death and Ressurrection of Christ and the soul of man.
I found the map of the pentagram lay out (Devil Star) of D.C. a complete fraud.

Architecture of white nations was just representative of the mighty white Roman Empire and it had nothing to do with the religion of the Founding Fathers
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I found that the constant attempt of "Symbolism" is stupid and mostly use to discredit White Christianity in an effort to call it "Pagan" This is primarily pushed by the Jews and is mentioned in the Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion....So they show you things like the three oblisks of the white Empires.

One in Rome
One in D.C.
One in London

What they don't tell you is there are identical Obelisks in
St. Petersburg Russia,
China,
United Arab Emirates
Saudi Arabia
Haifa Israel
The Bahai Gardens future house of Worship in Israel
And Yad Vashem in Israel.
Egypt
Japan

as well as a few other nations. Clips like this just target White Nations and love to call people "GOY" chattel, cattle, sheep. It's the Jew behind most of it. Obelisks are just a common pinnacle shape used to honor something. There is no obelisk conspiracy...except the one used to defame Christian Nations... in order for non Christians (Especially Jews) To claim Christianity is Egyptian Pagan Devil Worshipping.

The only "Satanic" cult that is running the NWO are Jews.
In reality... There is just an age old battle between Judaism, Christianity, and Islam trying to get control. They often call each other names such as "Satanic Cult". And there are even REAL satanic Cults but they are not the primary power. The Primary Power is the Jew Financiers.

The Jew likes to point fingers at anything but themselves. And so Jews will try to derail truth by putting out propaganda for revolutionists against White Nations and only white nations. It's an attempt to turn the anger of the American people into a Marxist Revolution against White Nations and White Christianity which are competitors of Judaism for world power. That's why you will find them attacking Masonic Christians especially. Islam also loves to do this.

While it is true there are Satanic Cults and orgies for modern Politicians... most of that was influenced by ZOG.

I knew that obelisks were a universal structure type not endemic to any particular location. The other stuff you mentioned, I can't comment on. And yes, jews are the scum of the universe. Although I haven't been to their secret parties, it wouldn't surprise me that the jews would be the brains behind their raunchy rituals.

I also think the jews and royal families are being lead by their gods though. I believe their gods are not figments of people's imaginations, but are in fact real. I can't tell you all the details, but I'm sure they're speaking to a third party at their Bilderberg conventions. It shows in their weird behavior.

In order to reach as many sensible White people as possible, we probably need to start omitting the world 'Illuminati' from our vocabulary. Whether it exist or not, or whether there's any Jewish connection to it isn't really relevant. What is relevant, is that most people just don't get it. And the word 'Illuminati', as with some other words, phrases, and terms, usually makes a 'conspiracy bulb' go off over their heads, and has a way of shutting down any realistic discourse or consideration for our cause.

Originally Posted by JamesinUSA

In order to reach as many sensible White people as possible, we probably need to start omitting the world 'Illuminati' from our vocabulary. Whether it exist or not, or whether there's any Jewish connection to it isn't really relevant. What is relevant, is that most people just don't get it. And the word 'Illuminati', as with some other words, phrases, and terms, usually makes a 'conspiracy bulb' go off over their heads, and has a way of shutting down any realistic discourse or consideration for our cause.

How about calling them

"Organized Traitors with loyalties to foreign nations and their interest...taking advantage of and rewriting U.S. policy for their own gain"

Originally Posted by JamesinUSA

In order to reach as many sensible White people as possible, we probably need to start omitting the world 'Illuminati' from our vocabulary. Whether it exist or not, or whether there's any Jewish connection to it isn't really relevant. What is relevant, is that most people just don't get it. And the word 'Illuminati', as with some other words, phrases, and terms, usually makes a 'conspiracy bulb' go off over their heads, and has a way of shutting down any realistic discourse or consideration for our cause.

I agree, while the Illuminati definitely existed, it was a front group even at the time of the French Revolution, and its influence today is highly problematical. In any case only history buffs, like most of us, will study it. Much better to talk about Banksters, the Frankfort School and Cultural Marxists, which do have great immediate relevance. It is easier to talk about how AIPAC is trying to get us into another pointless, no-win war with Iran, then to talk about Illuminati.

Iconoclast

Originally Posted by Nordic Angel

How about calling them

"Organized Traitors with loyalties to foreign nations and their interest...taking advantage of and rewriting U.S. policy for their own gain"

I thinks that's called the 'U.S. Congress!'

I already posted this in another thread, but I'll post it again here.



You may also want a copy of this:




The natural catastrophy aspect makes it worth reading in pertinence to the hypothetical Nemesis Star.
As a word to the wise, just remember that the whole age of enlightenment stuff is a scam.
The authors of this book paint too rosy a picture of the anticipated event
to be believable.

Originally Posted by JamesinUSA

In order to reach as many sensible White people as possible, we probably need to start omitting the world 'Illuminati' from our vocabulary. Whether it exist or not, or whether there's any Jewish connection to it isn't really relevant. What is relevant, is that most people just don't get it. And the word 'Illuminati', as with some other words, phrases, and terms, usually makes a 'conspiracy bulb' go off over their heads, and has a way of shutting down any realistic discourse or consideration for our cause.

I agree. We need a realistic standpoint from which there is already a huge consensus on. Mexican "immigration," the lack of jobs, horrible economy, losers for leaders.....

It's not that difficult.

The word NWO has become a household name. And I suspect Bilderberg and Illuminati have as well. It is important for us all to be mentally prepared for whatever twisted place this thing takes us.

At this point, anyone who doesn't understand that we are being governed by people not our own, is probably hopeless to redeem. We can't save everyone. People are entitled to their opinion though. Just my two cents...

Not attacking you, of course! We all have differing opinions, attitudes on how to do this. I usually go from the "inward to outward," that is, I can surely relate at once to other Whites on certain goals that we ourselves want, and go from there. That's just me, though. Whatever works.

I was only saying that the things we already know about our enemy are WEIRD. My intuition tells me that this is only going to get more bizarre as time goes on. My sincere opinion is that what is happening in the world cannot be explained by conventional wisdom. I don't think it is unreasonable to suspect there is something more to our enemy than meets the eye. I'm just saying....

Originally Posted by Herd People Suck

The word NWO has become a household name. And I suspect Bilderberg and Illuminati have as well. It is important for us all to be mentally prepared for whatever twisted place this thing takes us.

At this point, anyone who doesn't understand that we are being governed by people not our own, is probably hopeless to redeem. We can't save everyone. People are entitled to their opinion though. Just my two cents...

In a society today where a substantial number of young adults don't even know who the United States was fighting during the Revolutionary War, I think that it's doubtful that they would know anything about the Bilderberg or the Illuminati, except maybe that they've heard the word somewhere, and even that would be doubtful in a world where many, if not most, could care less about much of anything except when Football season is to start, and how their team will do.

I think that it is this point, where many Nationalist have gone wrong in the past in trying to articulate our movement , and that's that they assume that many, if not most people, are aware of much of what you and I would naturally take for granted as being common knowledge, but isn't.

This is one reason why WNN and the American Third Position is taking a different approach in communicating and in trying to appeal to the masses, with the understanding that we have to appeal to the public, at least those who are generally new to our movement, on a level that won't initially shut-down intelligent discourse between our people, and will have them at least explore for themselves in finding out the facts about such things as 'Race', Globalism, and 'Jews' for instance, and hopefully coming to their own conclusions, which is much more persuasive than merely taking our word for these things.

Originally Posted by JamesinUSA

In a society today where a substantial number of young adults don't even know who the United States was fighting during the Revolutionary War, I think that it's doubtful that they would know anything about the Bilderberg or the Illuminati, except maybe that they've heard the word somewhere, and even that would be doubtful in a world where many, if not most, could care less about much of anything except when Football season is to start, and how their team will do.

I think that it's this point, where many Nationalist have gone wrong in the past in trying to articulate our movement , and that's that they assume that many, if not most people, are aware of much of what you and I would naturally take for granted as being common knowledge, but isn't.

This is one reason why WNN and the American Third Position is taking a different approach in communicating and in trying to appeal to the masses, with the understanding that we have to appeal to the public, at least those who are generally new to our movement, on a level that won't initially shut-down intelligent discourse between our people, and will have them at least explore for themselves in finding out the facts about such things as 'Race', Globalism, and 'Jews' for instance, and hopefully coming to their own conclusions, which is much more persuasive than merely taking our word for these things.

Yes, there are a lot of really stupid and irresponsible people. However, I'm not sure you can save most of the kind of people you're describing here. I'll try to keep most of the wild speculation in designated threads. In my personal opinion though, it is the way Alex Jones and Billy Corgan were saying. The sheeple are slipping deeper into their trance while the rest of us are breaking off from the vice of the world.

The best way to wake people up en masse is to be on the consistent message of White Genocide.

Originally Posted by Herd People Suck

Yes, there are a lot of really stupid and irresponsible people. However, I'm not sure you can save most of the kind of people you're describing here. I'll try to keep most of the wild speculation in designated threads. In my personal opinion though, it is the way Alex Jones and Billy Corgan were saying. The sheeple are slipping deeper into their trance while the rest of us are breaking off from the vice of the world.

The best way to wake people up en masse is to be on the consistent message of White Genocide.

I wouldn't call it "Wild Speculation". We know the truth for what it is, it's just that the masses often haven't a clue as to what in the heck is going on in the world.

As for White Genocide", it's rather difficult to convince our people that such a thing might actually occur, and probably will, that is if we don't turn things around, especially with 'White Guilt' that has them believing that we should be ashamed for supposedly having it so good. When you say 'Genocide', people have been conditioned to think 'Gassing', 'Mass Murder', JEWS! They don't associate 'White people' with 'Genocide', whether it's a legitimate issue or not, at least at this particular time.

I have to agree with Sigrid that we have to keep things "Realistic", and appeal to what people can generally see with their own eyes and through their own experiences, and what's hitting their wallets and purses right now, which is what most people care about anyway. Not what they conceive as some abstract notions, that 'may' or 'may not' happen, as much as you and I knows that it will if we don't divert the present course that we're on, but rather, what 'IS' happening, right here, right now, that they can feel and understand, like Black on White crime for instance.

I think we should also try to give our people, not only the bad and the ugly as to where we stand, but a positive image of what 'CAN BE', if we can bring about real change in this country through a Nationalist Government.