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    The "Critics" of 9/11 Truth. Do They Have a Case?

    The 9/11 Truth movement was not created by bloggers ranting on their web sites. It was created by professional architects and engineers some of whom are known for having designed steel high rise buildings.
    It was created by distinguished scientists, such as University of Copenhagen nano-Chemist Niels Harrit who has 60 scientific papers to his credit and physicist Steven Jones.
    It was created by US Air Force pilots and commercial airline pilots who are expert at flying airplanes.
    It was created by firefighters who were in the twin towers and who personally heard and experienced numerous explosions including explosions in the sub-basements. It was created by members of 9/11 families who desire to know how such an improbable event as 9/11 could possibly occur.
    The professionals and the scientists are speaking from the basis of years of experience and expert knowledge. Moreover, the scientists are speaking from the basis of careful research into the evidence that exists.
    When an international research team of scientists spends 18 months studying the components in the dust from the towers and the fused pieces of concrete and steel, they know what they are doing. When they announce that they have definite evidence of incendiaries and explosives, you can bet your life that that have the evidence.
    When a physicist proves that Building 7 (the stories not obscured by other buildings) fell at free fall speed and NIST has to acknowledge that he is correct, you can bet your life that the physicist is correct.
    When fire department captains and clean-up teams report molten steel--and their testimony is backed up with photographs--in the debris of the ruins weeks and months after the buildings’ destruction, you can bet your life the molten steel was there.
    When the same authorities report pumping fire suppressants and huge quantities of water with no effect on the molten steel, you can bet your life that the temperature long after the buildings’ destruction remained extremely high, far higher than any building fire can reach. ................
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    What is the position of the movement’s critics? Ted Rall says: “Everything I’ve read and watched on Truther sites is easily dismissed by anyone with a basic knowledge of physics and architecture. (I spent three years in engineering school.) * The Truth About 9/11 Truthers* :** Information Clearing House News
    Wow! What powerful credentials. Has Rall ever designed a high rise steel building? Could Rall engage in a debate with a professor of nano-chemistry? Could he refute Newton’s laws in a debate with university physicists? Does Rall know anything about maneuvering airplanes? Does he have an explanation why 100 firefighters, janitors, and police report hearing and experiencing explosions that they did not hear or experience?


    Clearly, Ted Rall has no qualifications whatsoever to make any judgment about the judgments of experts whose knowledge exceeds his meager understanding by a large amount.


    Ann Barnhardt writes: “I gotta tell you, I’ve just about had it with these 9/11 truthers. If there is one phenomenon in our sick, sick culture that sums up how far gone and utterly damaged we are as a people, it is 9/11 trutherism. It pretty much covers everything: self-loathing, antisemitism, zero knowledge of rudimentary physics and a general inability to think logically.” She goes down hill from here. Barnhardt.biz - Commodity Brokerage


    Amazing, isn’t she? Physics professors have “zero knowledge of rudimentary physics.”
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    Paul Craig Roberts....

    Kook, nut case, societal drop out - tries to convince his few remaining readers that the Islamic immigration invasion of the US/Europe is nothing to worry about, any small problems the swarthy throat cutting, White women raping, suicide bombing, plane hi-jacking Muslims hordes are doing to our people either never happened, was an inside job or is some type of understandable protest against US Middle Eastern policy, the Crusades etc

    Here's hoping Paul Craig Roberts gets to spend the next New Year's Eve discussing conspiracy theories with Algerian Arabs looting and burning various industrial slums in France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack ryan View Post
    Paul Craig Roberts....

    Kook, nut case, societal drop out - tries to convince his few remaining readers that the Islamic immigration invasion of the US/Europe is nothing to worry about, any small problems the swarthy throat cutting, White women raping, suicide bombing, plane hi-jacking Muslims hordes are doing to our people either never happened, was an inside job or is some type of understandable protest against US Middle Eastern policy, the Crusades etc

    Here's hoping Paul Craig Roberts gets to spend the next New Year's Eve discussing conspiracy theories with Algerian Arabs looting and burning various industrial slums in France.
    What??????
    Did you actually read the article, before vomiting on the page?
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    I am very familiar with the sad story of Paul Craig Roberts - he once had a real job, before he lost his marbles. It happens to way too many White Americans; this conspiracy mongering, nut case, kook stuff doesn't seem to inflict any other White people in the world, only mixed up White Americans.

    I'm just waiting to hear Paul Craig Roberts come up with some weird conspiracy theory to explain away the Arab Moor Muslim 700 year invasion/occupation/enslavement of our White kinsmen in Spain!

    I wonder if Romanian folk hero Count Dracula - Vlad the Impaler had to put up with mixed up White men like Paul Craig Roberts when Count Dracula was resisting the Muslim invasion of his country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack ryan View Post
    I am very familiar with the sad story of Paul Craig Roberts - he once had a real job, before he lost his marbles. It happens to way too many White Americans; this conspiracy mongering, nut case, kook stuff doesn't seem to inflict any other White people in the world, only mixed up White Americans.

    I'm just waiting to hear Paul Craig Roberts come up with some weird conspiracy theory to explain away the Arab Moor Muslim 700 year invasion/occupation/enslavement of our White kinsmen in Spain!

    I wonder if Romanian folk hero Count Dracula - Vlad the Impaler had to put up with mixed up White men like Paul Craig Roberts when Count Dracula was resisting the Muslim invasion of his country.
    The thrust of the article was that the conspiracy Kooks are on the other side. The experts in each field under consideration, from aviation to demolition to physics to nanochemistry to building construction to electrical engineers to architects all agree that the NIST report is a complete fraud.

    I can only conclude that you are too stupid to actually read the article before commenting. This pains me, as it is not true of every other poster on this fine board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnRossTaylor View Post
    The thrust of the article was that the conspiracy Kooks are on the other side. The experts in each field under consideration, from aviation to demolition to physics to nanochemistry to building construction to electrical engineers to architects all agree that the NIST report is a complete fraud.

    I can only conclude that you are too stupid to actually read the article before commenting. This pains me, as it is not true of every other poster on this fine board.
    Maybe it isn't really stupidity. No one is stupid enough to call almost 2,000 of the world's top engineers and architects "Kooks and frauds." Here's one you can mark down and take to the bank: Anyone over the age of 12 who looks at the video of the collapse of WTC7 and says it resulted from fires is either galactically stupid, or he/she is carrying water for the system.

    Many who call themselves WNs constantly whine about us being "On the margin," a "Fringe element." Then along comes the 9/11 Truth movement, comprised of some of the world's leading scientists(who are not racists or anti-semites), and the polls show that a large majority of the sheeple doubt ZOG's official conspiracy theory, and these same people take the side against the majority of our people.

    These folks are either not on our side, or they are not worth having on our side.

    This is roughly what I told he owner of a large WN board, as I was going out the door.

    I suggest all who think like Jack Ryan on 9/11 navigate to that place. They will fit right in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack ryan View Post
    I am very familiar with the sad story of Paul Craig Roberts - he once had a real job, before he lost his marbles. It happens to way too many White Americans; this conspiracy mongering, nut case, kook stuff doesn't seem to inflict any other White people in the world, only mixed up White Americans.

    I'm just waiting to hear Paul Craig Roberts come up with some weird conspiracy theory to explain away the Arab Moor Muslim 700 year invasion/occupation/enslavement of our White kinsmen in Spain!

    I wonder if Romanian folk hero Count Dracula - Vlad the Impaler had to put up with mixed up White men like Paul Craig Roberts when Count Dracula was resisting the Muslim invasion of his country.
    Paul Craig Roberts is one of he most intelligent and bravest men alive today.

    WNN has a section devoted to Paul Craig Roberts. What could possibly motivate you to come on this board and insult that great American? You are trolling.

    If you want to refute the science of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, then have at it. The board is open to any serious argument. But you are advised to refrain from substituting name-caling for agrument. Seriously.
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    Anyone that believes the governments conspiracy theory that 19 mudslims pulled this off is flat out a moron.
    There I said it. The fact is the government has no case at all. This was obviously a jewish false flag attack
    designed to herd the US sheeple into a war for the jews. Unfortunately the US public is moronic enough
    to buy the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnRossTaylor View Post
    What??????
    Did you actually read the article, before vomiting on the page?
    Don't get too irritated JRT: 'Mensa' Jack Ryan is a TROLL. I have included just a few of 'Mensa' Jack's prior posts to support my statement.

    Jack Ryan Post 4 Weeks Ago:
    "That's just reality in American politics - democracy where everyone gets to vote and the vote of a 7th grade drop out counts as much as that of a high IQ MBA who qualified for MENSA (I have an MBA from Stern New York University and yes, qualified for MENSA and in a younger, different life I went in for Libertarianism, Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman etc)..."

    Jack Ryan Post 4 Weeks Ago:
    "Of the two front running horses I prefer Romney - felt he's a solid White guy, did a decent job as Governor of Mass - think he's electable if Evangelic Protestants don't insist on sabotaging his campaign like they did last time with the Huckster. Romney's father was a good governor or Michigan in Michigan's best years..."

    Jack Ryan Post 4 Weeks Ago:
    JR Replies: "Of the announced, well funded candidates now out there I would support Romney."

    Jack Ryan Post 4 Weeks Ago:
    "JR responds: I am not looking to "grace" anyone with my presence. Yes, I am a bright person, qualified for MENSA - am one of the top 2% of Americans in terms of intelligence..."
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    I apologize for posting on this thread.

    I do encourage readers to get away from wild conspiracy theory paranoia and try to get back in to mainstream White society and learn to live and speak with regular sane White Americans and Whites from other parts of the world.

    Racially aware Whites in countries like Switzerland, Holland, Belgium, (Northern) Italy and Russia have successfully rose to power by opposing Islamic terrorist immigration. The Swiss People's party is the #1 party in Switzerland - not some fringe 1% of 1% that loses every election and tries to get regular Whites to take the side of racially/cultural alien Muslim extremist immigrants.

    The White people on the 4 9/11/01 hi-jacked airplanes are all dead or "missing" - or taken by UFOs or something. Most Americans think they are just dead from the airplanes crashing.

    For those of you who like to focus on the evil deeds of Jews - one can easily point to the successful efforts of the American Jewish community to break down our common sense immigration controls we had up through 1965. Look at NumbersUSA score card, virtually every single Jewish Congressman receives an F grade on immigration - Jews work to flood America with the Non White 3rd worlders including Arab Muslims. Please read Kevin Macdonald on the subject of the Jews and immigration. So there is your Jewish plot.

    And yes, NBF I am smart in the top 2% of Americans in intelligence..... not saying very much there, I am afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack ryan View Post
    I apologize for posting on this thread.

    I do encourage readers to get away from wild conspiracy theory paranoia and try to get back in to mainstream White society and learn to live and speak with regular sane White Americans and Whites from other parts of the world.

    Racially aware Whites in countries like Switzerland, Holland, Belgium, (Northern) Italy and Russia have successfully rose to power by opposing Islamic terrorist immigration. The Swiss People's party is the #1 party in Switzerland - not some fringe 1% of 1% that loses every election and tries to get regular Whites to take the side of racially/cultural alien Muslim extremist immigrants.

    The White people on the 4 9/11/01 hi-jacked airplanes are all dead or "missing" - or taken by UFOs or something. Most Americans think they are just dead from the airplanes crashing.

    For those of you who like to focus on the evil deeds of Jews - one can easily point to the successful efforts of the American Jewish community to break down our common sense immigration controls we had up through 1965. Look at NumbersUSA score card, virtually every single Jewish Congressman receives an F grade on immigration - Jews work to flood America with the Non White 3rd worlders including Arab Muslims. Please read Kevin Macdonald on the subject of the Jews and immigration. So there is your Jewish plot.

    And yes, NBF I am smart in the top 2% of Americans in intelligence..... not saying very much there, I am afraid.
    So, you try to apologize and in doing so manage to insult us again in the very next sentence!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack ryan View Post
    ...And yes, NBF I am smart in the top 2% of Americans in intelligence..... not saying very much there, I am afraid.
    Then surely you've heard the phrase- "never believe your own press"?

    NBF may not have an MBA or be qualified for Mensa, I don't know either way, but I'll take his brand of common sense over someone that wants to wave a piece of paper around claiming how smart they are, any day of the week.
    A true measure of a man's character is his willingness to speak the truth - even at the expense of his reputation.

    A hallmark of self-deceiving cowards is their acceptance of authority as their truth, rather than the truth as their authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    Anyone that believes the governments conspiracy theory that 19 mudslims pulled this off is flat out a moron.
    There I said it. The fact is the government has no case at all. This was obviously a jewish false flag attack
    designed to herd the US sheeple into a war for the jews. Unfortunately the US public is moronic enough
    to buy the story.
    The government knew there were "terrorists" wanting to hijack planes and fly them into buildings. I also believe they didn't do anything about it so that they could go to "war" over in the Middle East and have the pretense of a reason to do so. As far as the charges and explosives in buildings, I'm not so sure about that... yet. But I do believe they knew it would happen and that this would be a reason to bring their own terror to Iraq and Afghanistan.
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    Ok.Im throwin my 2 cents in.I am a moron but this moron can tell,after viewing and watching the material out there on this subject,that the official 9/11 story is NOT!! the truth.Now, what is, may never be known but a 5th grader ,who is actually honest, knows this.By the way.If you have to toot your own horn,so to speak,then you are showing just how much a fool you truly are.Just sayin
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    I just want to apologize to Ed and anyone else here - I should never post on any 9/11 conspiracy theory threads.

    This type of Spotlight Magazine conspiracy theory mongering is a huge divisive subject in the American patriot/White Nationalist "movement" (hate that word). Some people can't get enough of these conspiracy theories, others think it drives away sane, mainstream White Americans. I often get very frustrated that American White Nationalism/patriot politics can't seem to break out of a 2% cult - in contrast, WN/Populists in Europe manage to compete to win and actually win voter support as the largest parties, or 2nd largest political parties in countries like Switzerland, Holland, Belgium - European nationalist compete to win and win; and anti White forces can not dismiss nationalists as fringe, kooks.

    This web site is Jamie K's - so he makes the call. I am a great admirer of Jamie, but wish he would put these conspiracy theories threads on some other web site.

    Ed, sorry again for any thing I posted. I really liked your radio programs on Stormfront - nothing, crazy, kooky about them.

    Take care folks.

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    I'm having Stormfront flashbacks reading your posts JR. It was the same sort
    of stupid debunker troll posts that showed up every day there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack ryan View Post
    I just want to apologize to Ed and anyone else here - I should never post on any 9/11 conspiracy theory threads.

    This type of Spotlight Magazine conspiracy theory mongering is a huge divisive subject in the American patriot/White Nationalist "movement" (hate that word). Some people can't get enough of these conspiracy theories, others think it drives away sane, mainstream White Americans. I often get very frustrated that American White Nationalism/patriot politics can't seem to break out of a 2% cult - in contrast, WN/Populists in Europe manage to compete to win and actually win voter support as the largest parties, or 2nd largest political parties in countries like Switzerland, Holland, Belgium - European nationalist compete to win and win; and anti White forces can not dismiss nationalists as fringe, kooks.

    This web site is Jamie K's - so he makes the call. I am a great admirer of Jamie, but wish he would put these conspiracy theories threads on some other web site.

    Ed, sorry again for any thing I posted. I really liked your radio programs on Stormfront - nothing, crazy, kooky about them.

    Take care folks.

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    You don't need to apologize to me, since you didn't insult me personally. I believe you insult the entire forum when you call Paul Craig Roberts a "Kook," and say, untruthfully, that he supports muslim immigration into the US. I further believe you insult the entire forum when you call people who do not accept the patently untrue claim that WTC 7 fell due to office fires "Kooks." If you believe that 19 ragheads, witout assistance from any government, pulled off the biggest such operation in history(because they "Hated our freedom"), and a 47 story steel framed building sat down in its own footprint at free -fall speed as a result of scattered office fires, you have the right to say it. Just don't expect a lot of support on this forum.

    Your claim that opposing the government's scientifically absurd official conspiracy theory about 9/11 somehow places us "On the fringe" of American society is absurd. The polls show that more than 3/4 of the population shares our doubts, with one respected poll showing that only 16% of the public accepts the official conspiracy theory. 9/11 is the Achilles heel of the cabal that is destroying our nation and our race. We certainly don't need to move 9/11 talk to another site. We need a post on it every few pages.

    These things, coupled with your support of Mitt Romney, your backhanded insults to other posters and the readership in general, and your obvious inability to refrain from bragging about how much more intelligent and educated you are, motivated me to charge you with trolling. Since the board's Admin has publicly given you the seal of approval, I will not pursue that further. My silence on the matter does not mean I don't have my doubts.
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    All I know is the government never had any forensic reports on what actually happened to back their "official" claims. Hence I can't rely any "official" claims by the government, unless they backed them up with hardcore forensic studies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack ryan View Post
    I just want to apologize to Ed and anyone else here - I should never post on any 9/11 conspiracy theory threads.

    This type of Spotlight Magazine conspiracy theory mongering is a huge divisive subject in the American patriot/White Nationalist "movement" (hate that word). Some people can't get enough of these conspiracy theories, others think it drives away sane, mainstream White Americans. I often get very frustrated that American White Nationalism/patriot politics can't seem to break out of a 2% cult - in contrast, WN/Populists in Europe manage to compete to win and actually win voter support as the largest parties, or 2nd largest political parties in countries like Switzerland, Holland, Belgium - European nationalist compete to win and win; and anti White forces can not dismiss nationalists as fringe, kooks.

    This web site is Jamie K's - so he makes the call. I am a great admirer of Jamie, but wish he would put these conspiracy theories threads on some other web site.

    Ed, sorry again for any thing I posted. I really liked your radio programs on Stormfront - nothing, crazy, kooky about them.

    Take care folks.

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    This is all fine and good, I guess, but you are missing out on one very important factor here. The European nations you mention are the size of some of our single states and the smaller ones at that. Here's an Idea we get ALL WN to move to one state and only one state, then and only them could we have a Majority and control the local government.
    I really wish people would stop comparing The United States of America to, Sweden, Iceland, Norway or even Germany.... We are hundreads times larger than they are, I mean seriously, ALL of Europe would fit in to our borders and we'd still have excess land....
    Another thing to keep in mind, America was set up to break the Mold of European politics, Monarchies and European Socialism...
    As for the fring 9/11 stuff, if the American Public ever learned the truth, IsraHELL would be vaporized, the public would demand it...
    Here...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan B. Forrest View Post
    Don't get too irritated JRT: 'Mensa' Jack Ryan is a TROLL. I have included just a few of 'Mensa' Jack's prior posts to support my statement.

    Jack Ryan Post 4 Weeks Ago:
    "That's just reality in American politics - democracy where everyone gets to vote and the vote of a 7th grade drop out counts as much as that of a high IQ MBA who qualified for MENSA (I have an MBA from Stern New York University and yes, qualified for MENSA and in a younger, different life I went in for Libertarianism, Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman etc)..."

    Jack Ryan Post 4 Weeks Ago:
    "Of the two front running horses I prefer Romney - felt he's a solid White guy, did a decent job as Governor of Mass - think he's electable if Evangelic Protestants don't insist on sabotaging his campaign like they did last time with the Huckster. Romney's father was a good governor or Michigan in Michigan's best years..."

    Jack Ryan Post 4 Weeks Ago:
    JR Replies: "Of the announced, well funded candidates now out there I would support Romney."

    Jack Ryan Post 4 Weeks Ago:
    "JR responds: I am not looking to "grace" anyone with my presence. Yes, I am a bright person, qualified for MENSA - am one of the top 2% of Americans in terms of intelligence..."
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